I have seen a few DV2024 report that they have received their 2NLs for October dates. So – I think it is time for a quick reminder about the 2NL.
The 2NL is the interview appointment notification. You get an email that has no useful information, and all it says is that you have updates and you should go and check the ESC page. The ESC page is where you originally saw the “you have been selected” letter. That is the 1NL (short for 1st Notification Letter).
Some people notice that the 2NL email is received BEFORE the interview appointment details are updated to the ESC page. No need to worry – just wait a couple of hours.
One note, when you have your 2NL you no longer have access to your 1NL, so it you want to keep it for any reason – download the 1NL before you get the 2NL.
Once you receive the 2NL you have a few weeks notice of your interview. So that is when you need to make sure you have read the instructions, gathered documents and booked the medical. This is what you have been waiting for – so take this phase seriously!
October 12, 2023 at 04:41
Hello Brit Simon.
Thanks for your good work and responses. My CN IS 2024AF166XX from Kenya. When am I likely to get 2NL since I filled DS 260 on 29 May 2023. Is US Embassy in Nairobi started to invite applicants for the interviews??
October 12, 2023 at 07:51
I don’t know when your case will be current or how the NRB embassy is performing. Patience.
September 26, 2023 at 23:42
Hello Brit. here we who have high case numbers must still participate in DV 2025 or else
September 27, 2023 at 00:21
DV2024 selectees are welcome to enter DV2025.
September 25, 2023 at 15:00
hello BritSimon, thank you for every single update. ive had a lot of education here and your youtube channel. please i am in Accra Gh and a 2024 selectee with cn AF44**, submitted DS260 on 27th May. when am i likely to be scheduled please. thank you for your response
September 25, 2023 at 18:11
I can’t predict that. Wait and see.
September 19, 2023 at 03:29
Hi Simon
My case no 2024AS5x9. But i am not receiving any 2NL. Can you please clarify with me
September 19, 2023 at 09:01
As well as being current, your DS260 needs to have completed processing, and your embassy must be accepting sufficient interviews.
September 18, 2023 at 17:03
Hello Simon, my apologies for a silly question, but how did you find that the case density for EU region is 33%?
Best,
Roman
September 18, 2023 at 18:21
A series of assumptions and calculations. It will vary based on:
Number of cases (I have assumed 23100 cases based on 50K selectees and 2.17 derivative rate)
Max case number (I have assumed a 69K highest CN)
September 3, 2023 at 00:04
1. In the 9fam 502.6 look at what it says concerning education and work experience , base on my retake exam.
(U) High School Education or Equivalent:
(1) (U) You must adjudicate the DV applicant’s qualifications under this requirement. This information is not needed to enter the DV program or apply for a visa under the DV program, but the applicant must meet this requirement by the end of the fiscal year in which selected. If the applicant does not meet the requirement at the time of the visa interview, you should refuse the case under INA 203(c). If the applicant presents evidence of completion of high school before the end of the fiscal year, and visas are still available for the region, you may overcome the refusal.
2. After unlocking my DS 260 to update for work experience, all information are for people that are employed but in my own case I am the employer how will I fill it now?
September 3, 2023 at 17:00
1. That doesn’t help if the CO is insisting on a formal course of education.
2. Self employed, or the company name.
September 3, 2023 at 00:00
Hello Simon, I have 2 question boarding me?
August 31, 2023 at 16:59
Thank so much, if I may ask, does my family need to enter Cameroon too or I should just changed their address on DS 260 then when the time comes for the interview we all move in together.
August 31, 2023 at 23:01
It would be odd if you lived there without the family, right?
So – all should live there.
August 31, 2023 at 16:00
Hi Simon, I try all my best to give kcc reasonable point while I want my interview location to Cameroon but all their response is to unlock and change address. This is what am planning to do. I will unlock the DS 260 change my current address to Cameroon, but can I be going to Cameroon spend 2month and come to Nigeria because of my business. I.e I will be spending 2 in Cameroon and 1month in Nigeria, I will continue like this till am done with my interview. All so by so doing will I still need Cameroon police clearance since I didn’t stay for 6 months. Secondly will I hv to change my children and wife address on their DS 260 too
August 31, 2023 at 16:32
Yes you should change your address and that of the derivatives too. 2 months there with business trips to Nigeria every quarter is normal. Get the police certs for all countries needed.
August 31, 2023 at 15:47
Hi Simon,thanks for your time and help Please my CN is 2024AF55K from Morocco ,do you think that i will receive 2NL
August 31, 2023 at 16:30
Probably, but time will tell.
August 31, 2023 at 01:27
Hi Simon,
Thank you so much I really appreciate the help you are providing for the DV lottery winners.
I am from Colombo and I have a low case number below AS2000(dv2024) , I have filled the DS 260 late may , I contacted the KCC as I became current and they said my case is now with the embassy and they will send a 2 NL once a visa has been allocated , today is the 31st of August and I still haven’t got 2NL, few days back I contacted the embassy and they said they haven’t started October interviews yet (However it wasn’t a very informative reply ) , On youtube I have heard people say that 2NL has to come between 15th and 30th of the month , so I am wondering if there is an issue here.
Regards
August 31, 2023 at 10:18
October is month 1 or 12. Why are you stressing about this. Relax. Patience.
August 29, 2023 at 06:58
Hello Simon,
In one of your blog post (The lottery draw process), you wrote “The numbering is region specific so just as my example if for an AF number, that same number could exist in different regions (for example 2015EU00021123, and 2015AS00021123).”
But how is it possible ? Because for DV Lottery 2024, there are 50150 selectees in Europe, but there are some Case Number at 57XXX and 66XXX in EU also. And a CN at 122k in AF, however there are not even 100k selectees in Africa also.
So I wonder if the number process is more like global and not region specific, I mean that there are not the same number in different region, and that each number is unique.
What do you think about it ?
August 29, 2023 at 08:47
Seems like you didn’t read enough of the article or watch the video.
There are holes between case numbers, so AF122000 does not have 121999 cases in front of it.
The cases numbers are per region.
Keep reading.
August 29, 2023 at 09:17
Thank you for your answer,
Yes I understand, but in the same post, you said first they randomly select through every entries and a CN is attributed.
Next, they removed holes.
That means at first they selected more than 122k cases in AF and more than 65k in EU, and then they removed holes ?
And at the end they kept 50K in EU without holes, because that’s the total selectees in visa bulletin for EU.
August 29, 2023 at 11:04
No – you still don’t understand it seems.
1. When you look at selectee numbers, remember that includes derivatives. So EU for example has 50161 selectees – that is probably about 23100 cases.
2. There are lots of holes. The case density (opposite of hole density) is probably around 33% in EU and 27% in AF.
August 27, 2023 at 08:58
Hi Simon,
As a DV selectee for DV24 with a considerably high case number EU66XXX, I am from Azerbaijan and have been assigned to the Madrid embassy due to my residence in Spain. Could it be assumed that this assignment to the Madrid consulate enhances my prospects compared to other candidates from Azerbaijan?
August 27, 2023 at 09:14
Yes possibly. But your case number will be the real challenge.
November 23, 2023 at 04:25
Hi Simon,
Please I’m a DV2024 AF10k…lottery winner and submitted my Ds-260 on 24th May,2023. My case number is current for January.
Please when can I receive my 2NL?
November 23, 2023 at 11:53
Depends on the capacity of your embassy, and whether they have a backlog or not.
August 27, 2023 at 04:14
Hello Simon, am a dv lottery winner 2024. Am a Cameronian who lives in Nigeria. But before the results came out I resat for my high school exam in Nigeria because the one I did in Cameroon doesn’t meet the requirements. On July 2023 the results came out and I pass all my exam. Will this cause any problem for present a recent result and also am in my early 40s will the age affect me.
August 27, 2023 at 09:06
The embassy could disregard your retake results.
However, more importantly, where do you expect to interview, because Nigeria did not accept a single DV case in DV2023, and may behave the same for DV2024.
August 27, 2023 at 10:33
My interview location is Cameroon. I choose Cameroon embassy in my DS 260. So should I forfeit this process since you said the embassy could disregard my results?
August 27, 2023 at 10:43
Moreover, some one told that that they take into account all education completed before interview is that true
August 27, 2023 at 12:41
If the address you gave is Nigeria, they will normally ignore your choice. You should email them to explain you want to interview in Cameroon as you have ties there (family and so on).
Regarding education, the person that said they will take into account all education completed doesn’t understand the process. THey would be justified to ignore your retake. So – consider the other factors you have such as work experience and decide whether you want to take the risk of proceeding or not.
August 27, 2023 at 13:31
Ok. Thank you. Considering the work experience, can I use my business name. I own a business In Nigeria and is registered with corporate affair and am the general manager. Can I be qualified through this?
August 27, 2023 at 14:51
Possibly, yes. Read the link:
https://britsimonsays.com/education-or-work-experience-qualifying-for-the-dv-lottery/
August 27, 2023 at 13:48
Moreover, the business as being register with corporate affair since 2018
August 28, 2023 at 04:53
Hello Simon, thank you for your time. But at this junction I need your help. 1. Can you guard me on how to compose the mail for interview location.
2. Base on the work experience, have read the link you gave me. But in my situation am the employer and so I can get appointment letter because the company belong to me. How can I prove myself. Can the following help
1. Have the certificate of incorporation
2. Having all your tax payment and receipt
3. Having all bank transaction and bank statement. Can all this helps or how can I go about it
August 28, 2023 at 09:46
You must use your own judgment about how you would show you own, and run a business, and that business is a real thing that provides you with your income. Typically tax returns and accountant reports are useful as well as any marketing material you might have. Think about your particular case.
August 28, 2023 at 08:43
Will I treat it as case transfer?
August 28, 2023 at 09:48
No. You should be showing them the reason to use that embassy. Perhaps you are there for your business.
August 29, 2023 at 09:39
Hello, hv email KCC and this is their response:
Thank you for your inquiry.
Once the DS-260 for the Principal Applicant has been submitted, the interview location can only be updated by the Kentucky Consular Center (KCC). Please send your request to [email protected]. You will need to include information that explains why you need the interview location changed. Unless they are in the U.S. and adjusting status, all applicants on the case will be scheduled for interview with the Principal Applicant. You should contact the U.S. Embassy or Consulate directly to arrange separate interviews, if needed.
The place of application, i.e., location of interview, for noncitizens seeking an immigrant visa will normally be in the consular district with jurisdiction over their place of residence, with limited exceptions. If you need to change your interview location because your residency has changed, you will need to include the new address in your email along with your case number, Principal Applicant’s name, and complete date of birth in the following format (MMDDYYYY). Also, you will also need to request that KCC unlock your DS-260, so that you can update your application with your new address. (Please note that Post Office Boxes, general addresses without a fixed residence, and mailing addresses in care of another person are generally insufficient for purposes of this request, and that visiting family members, tourism, or vacationing do not justify a change of interview location.) These steps are not necessary if you are requesting a reassignment because your case is currently assigned to Embassy Kabul. For more information, please see https://travel.state.gov/
August 29, 2023 at 11:09
Yep – this is all clear – as I said, they expect you to justify why you should be interviewed elsewhere. The simplest justification is to move to that country.
August 27, 2023 at 04:06
Hi Simon
August 23, 2023 at 16:32
Hello Simon, thanks for all !
When we watch Visa Bulletin, we can see on the right column some countries numbers with “except”, what does that mean ?
Does it means that those countries doesn’t count ?
August 24, 2023 at 09:24
https://britsimonsays.com/first-visa-bulletin-for-dv2024-is-released/
August 18, 2023 at 06:28
Hello Simon first thanks for all the information God bless you .what is the highest CN in Afireca???
August 19, 2023 at 09:23
The highest I know of is 2024AF122k
August 19, 2023 at 11:22
Hello Simon first thanks for all the information God bless you. Is avidavit support form is needed for intervow for dv 2024 winners ?
August 19, 2023 at 14:09
Often, yes.
August 23, 2023 at 16:16
Hi Simon,thanks for the good work
Please my CN is 2024AF189xx from Ghana ,when am I likely to be interviewed
August 24, 2023 at 09:23
This really depends on how Accra embassy performs – so wait and see.
August 18, 2023 at 00:37
Hi Mr Simon
I talked with an us embassy pakistan officer. She said we don’t have your case in our system. Kcc should sent your case then we will get your interview.
The officer said you should contact with KCC. But they do not reply.
What should I do .?
Can you help me ?
This is my WhatsApp number +93728345575
Please contact me
August 19, 2023 at 09:17
KCC will not send any more 2NLs for DV2023. It is time to accept that and realize your chance is gone. I’m sorry.
August 17, 2023 at 14:15
Hello Simon, first thanks for all the informations you provide !
My CN is 2024EU46XXX and I’m from France, what do you think about it ?
I spend hours on the internet trying to see, but I can’t find anything, I can’t see if in Europe or France someone has already had the Green Card with such a high CN.
It is my dream and I would like to know my chances to get it.
And knowing there are a lot more selectees, and with holes, would it drop to around 37000 ?
August 17, 2023 at 15:05
I suggest you stop trying to think about it for now. Better to wait until January for the data.
August 16, 2023 at 17:15
Hii Simon
My case no is 2024AF32** fill ds 260 on 11th May still I have not received my 2nl
August 16, 2023 at 20:13
OK. More patience needed.
August 16, 2023 at 14:47
Invalid
Why it becomes like this
August 16, 2023 at 14:46
Hi Mr Simon
When I checked my case status it says my case number is invat
August 16, 2023 at 20:11
Yeah the CEAC system is broken right now – just wait a couple of days.
August 15, 2023 at 00:52
Hi Britsimon
I noticed one CN, after being listed in the “all cases in the database” table for some time then it was removed. What could be the case?
The CN was presented as
2023AF20495 ADD Ready 2021-11-01
August 15, 2023 at 13:55
I don’t know.
August 17, 2023 at 05:12
And when you look well down it is written
LAST UPDATE ….
August 14, 2023 at 19:22
Hi Britsimon
Thanks for all the updates
We have case no OC3*** for dv2024 and submitted ds260 on June 3rd.
Will we be interviewed any time soon
August 14, 2023 at 23:49
I think your case number will be too high to get an interview at all. The government have needlessly and inexplicably selected FAR more selectees in DV2024 (77% more), even though DV2023 didn’t even need all the people selected in that year.
August 14, 2023 at 10:51
Hi Britsimon
I noticed one CN, after being listed in the “all cases in the database” table for some time then it was removed. What could be the case?
The CN was as follows
2023AF20495 ADD Ready 2021-11-01
August 13, 2023 at 18:26
Hi Simon,
We have the case no 2024EU7xxx and we submit DS260 on May 9th. When do you think we will receive the 2NL? As we are living in Canada, with dual citizenship and we will be schedule for Montreal embassy, how do you rate-it?
Thanks,
Alina
August 13, 2023 at 21:21
Your interview will be early. No need to be impatient.
Mtl is ok.
August 13, 2023 at 11:42
@Britsimon After filling the I-134 form by the sponsor where does he need to submit??
Does he need to send to edv winners and the winners should show at interviews??
August 13, 2023 at 15:34
The I-134 is shown at the interview if the CO asks for it.
August 12, 2023 at 17:55
My ds 260 is send today.my case is 2024EU13xx.when is my chance for interview?may in October?
August 12, 2023 at 18:34
Your late submission means you will wait for some months while your DS260 is processed. So – even though you have a low number, it will be early 2024 before you get a 2NL.
September 25, 2023 at 02:05
Hi again.I got my 2 nl on 20 September very fast.my interview is on 2 November.not expect too fast
September 25, 2023 at 18:06
That is very interesting.
August 12, 2023 at 13:34
Hi Simon
Do you think that a 2024AS205xx case number is safe considering that 2023 went up to 21000 or there’s still risk ?
August 12, 2023 at 13:57
https://britsimonsays.com/ask-questions/comment-page-758/#comment-345831
August 12, 2023 at 01:29
Hi Brit,my case 2024AF3*** ,place of interview Riyadh..Am i current considering am doing my interview in Asia?
August 12, 2023 at 10:31
No. I suggest you learn how to read the visa bulletin.
August 13, 2023 at 03:19
Advice me on this coz I don’t understand..my case number is from Africa but interview in Asia
August 13, 2023 at 04:49
Which bulletin should I be checking?asian or africa ?coz as per my case number AF 3k is current,but now my interview is in Riyadh
August 13, 2023 at 09:31
You go according to AF region.
August 11, 2023 at 11:34
@BritSimon thanks for all the that you are providing for edv winners. So my sponsor was a bit confused so he asked me that he is green card holder and has not applied for citizenship in USA so can he be the sponsor otherwise he will ask for his friends to be my sponsor who holds US citizenship??
August 11, 2023 at 11:40
A greencard holder is fine.
August 10, 2023 at 16:54
Sir Simon, today I received the 2NL with the date of the consular appointment for October 16. I am from Cuba, case number 272.
August 11, 2023 at 11:09
Awesome! Thanks!
September 22, 2023 at 03:19
Hello Brit Simons, This to inform you I have received my 2nl, on 20th Sept for November interview.
CN. 3k
Interview location: Accra
Submitted Ds260: 8th May.
Thank you so much for your education and direction
September 22, 2023 at 07:02
Nice – thank you for letting me know. Prepare well!!