OK – after the latest bulletin, I am getting inundated with people posting the same question – what about my number – am I safe. So – perhaps I can explain how I am answering those questions at this point – with the HOPE that people will read this and not keep asking the same question when their number is 100 more or less than the previous question asked.
Like all of you, I have only just seen the latest VB in the last couple of days. My guesstimates were pretty accurate and people seem to be realizing that the process is understandable now that we have so much data. However, within minutes of that being released, people were asking me for my final cutoff predictions. I actually don’t know if I will release a final prediction or not (explanation below), but in any case, as I have explained before I need to see the 2NL data to really understand what went on, and where we stand for the next VB.
However, I am answering a lot of these questions based on my gut feeling. So – what does my “gut” tell me.
AF region is under the quota at the moment because too many cases are failing to show for the interviews – they are “no show” cases. So – in order to make the quota, KCC have to accelerate a bit. AF region had a really good VB – increasing to 250 more than the highest number I guessed. As I have explained, A number at the high end of my range would tell me that KCC have noticed the “no show” issue and are trying to address it with a busy interview month. The increase from 36500 to 44250 included 2889 cases – of which at least half would have responded – so that is around 1500 interviews – PLUS any from the backlog. So – they will probably schedule over 2000 interviews for AF region – more than usual. With that number of interviews they will issue 2500 to 3000 visas in the month of August. The backlog should have reduced somewhat, but will not completely disappear even up to the last VB.
Now. What can they do in September. Well I think they can do even more in September. The backlog should take less interviews, Egypt will be exhausted and KCC don’t have to allow for September AP cases still having a chance in following months (as they do in every other month. So – if they have revealed 2889 new cases this month – they should be able to do a bit better than that in September as a minimum. So – let’s say, they release 3679 new case numbers (remember only half will have responded). That would take us to 55,000 – and that should yield at least 2000 interviews (4500 people). That would be a big month, but very possible. So – I feel that my earlier guess that 55000 and below is safe is still the case.
Could it go higher? Well to get to 60000 that means revealing 5188 cases (2500/3000) interviews. THat is possible, but pretty optimistic. To get to 65000 means 6676 new cases (at least 3500 interviews – 8000 people). VERY optimistic.
So – I can see 55000 to 60000 as being the approximate range. 60000 to 65000 seems to be a lesser chance, and above 65000 is not likely at all. So – under 55000 I am answering “safe” and 55/60 gets “some chance” whilst 60/65 gets risky, but wait and see. Above 65000, people really need to be preparing themselves for the inevitable.
In reality ALL should “wait and see” – it isn’t over until the end.
For Asia region, Nepal will hit the 7%. There is no doubt. That will happen either with the number we already have (7150) or perhaps a small increase in September. Small. I don’t see the number going beyond 7600 – and could imagine 7150 even being enough. For the rest of Asia, as I have explained many times, the real decider is Iranian AP cases. If Iranian AP cases resolve faster than last year, Iran could take more than last year. If they take 2500/2700 we might see the final number go to 11XXX or 12XXX. However, at 3000 for Iran, ROA is probably looking at risk from 10000 onward.
So – if you ask about your AS number, I feel like anything under 10000 is pretty safe, and after 10000 gets into “wait and see” range. It is just too unknown to be clearer than that.
For EU – there was a good jump this month – 1510 case numbers. Now for EU, the issue is more about final quota being hit – because EU are not in danger of undershooting like AF region. Given where we stand it looks like EU ends June on 13k visas issued . 13k seems a given – perhaps more (13200/13300).
Then at current pace it could add 2000 to 2300 per month in July and August (4500 between the two let’s say). That is easily possible from the VB numbers released. We could be sitting on 17.5 to 18 at the end of August. So – add in some September issuances based on backlog cases and AP clearing. That could easily yield 1000. So – we would have 18.5 to 19. Plus AoS cases (processed in the USA, not shown in CEAC).
So – if those numbers are correct, EU don’t need much increase in September at all – maybe even no increase (like last year) . For this reason, anyone not already current in EU gets a “wait and see” response.
For OC – I still hope they can get something starting with 14.
SA is a bit more of an unknown – I hope they can get to 15XX or perhaps even 16XX.
I hope that helps explain my answers.
Now, about the final accurate predictions. I don’t know that I will predict the final numbers as I have been. As you can read above, there is a lot of uncertainty – a lot of unknowns, and, particularly for AF and AS, the calculation I normally use might not apply. So – I will try and update these thoughts over the next few weeks and I will post information once I see the 2NL, but don’t hold your breath for the final VB prediction….
Good luck to all those still waiting. For those that get into the final batch, there will be joy. For those that miss out, there will be other opportunities. After all this time you each have a HUGE emotional investment in this crazy lottery – but anyone who read the original “you have been selected” letter should have known they were not guaranteed to get the Green Card. Let us at least hope that they give out as many as possible…
November 29, 2017 at 18:52
Hello mr Simon my number case is EU 247XX is safe??????????
November 29, 2017 at 18:54
Answered here:
https://britsimonsays.com/dv2018-selectee-numbers-published/
October 2, 2017 at 12:18
Hi Brit. My case number is 2018EU32xxx. Dou you think it is risky? Since in 2004 and 2005 the cutoff numbers were quite below than 32000. Thank u for your help.
October 2, 2017 at 13:52
There is no point worrying yourself look back over 10 years!!!
Read this
britsimonsays.com/dv2018-selectee-numbers-published/
October 2, 2017 at 14:58
Thanks a lot. I also wonder your opinion on the numbers of October and November since those are the lowest numbers in available history?
October 2, 2017 at 15:49
https://britsimonsays.com/change-ds260-processing/
September 18, 2017 at 07:53
Sorry case number AF506XXX
September 18, 2017 at 16:44
Actually I think your first try was more accurate. About 50600.
Yes you can enter DV2019, no problem.
September 18, 2017 at 07:39
Hello I won this 2018 DV and my CN is 506XX which I don’t think is safe so can I still go in for DV 2019. Thanks
May 12, 2017 at 21:12
Hi BritSimon, I have my case number 2018eu20XXX and I already completed ds260. Do you think I am safe? Will I get the interview? Above you predict around 19000 is the largest number of EU visas to be issued.
Also do you think current president will end green card lottery?
May 13, 2017 at 04:46
Safe number.
https://britsimonsays.com/dv2018-basic-questions
No the current lottery will not end.
January 2, 2016 at 06:42
sir, my CN AS74** . am i safe or not
January 2, 2016 at 06:46
I don’t know. No one knows. You have to wait.
October 11, 2015 at 10:12
hello there. you said anything under 10000 is pretty safe, and after 10000 gets into “wait and see” range! so you mean AS6900 is a safe number. I want to know what month they call our case for interview? I think it should be around May or June? what’s your idea?
October 11, 2015 at 15:30
Careful – you are reading a DV2015 article and in fact the final number for Asia was lower than I thought. We don’t have any data for 2016 yet, so I can’t predict – but your number is probably closer to the highest number, and therefore your interview will be in August or September.
October 17, 2015 at 08:33
thanks for the fast reply. we all wish you the best
September 18, 2015 at 01:58
I do like this blog!
Brief I’d like to know if I have any change!
I’m living in State with legal nonimmigrant status, and I winn DV 2016 my rank number is AF00054xxx.
Do I have any change?
thank you in advance
September 18, 2015 at 05:08
Your number is quite high, so might not get an interview at all. If you do make it and get current, it won’t be until the final months, but yes you could process adjustment of status at that time.
August 30, 2015 at 11:57
Hi Simon
Let me pls understand the following: if the AF cut off was at about 50,000 … Then how it comes that there are also visas issued to other continents which makes the total number of visas are much much higher than the overall number of given visas which is 50000 ?? I noticed there were recent years where the total number of cut offs / those who were invited for interview are even more that 100,000 !!
Can u please explain ?
Thx
August 30, 2015 at 14:48
The numbers you are referring to are case numbers. There are gaps between the case numbers – holes. PLus many that get a win do not proceed, or get refused.
August 30, 2015 at 17:16
You mean case numbers that are called for interviews, some / many of them do not get the visa. I think it Idone clear to me. Thank u
August 20, 2015 at 20:49
Thanks for an in-depth analysis of the facts. Iam now understanding what these numbers mean. However you have analysed mostly the selectees for DV 2015. Iam a DV 2016 from Africa. That’s AF00045xxx , are the preparations done concurrently with the 2015. May I know please if iam safe
August 20, 2015 at 22:54
The highest AF number for DV2015 was 50000. So – you are within that number but perhaps not sufficiently low to be “safe”. However, it is too early to know for sure one way or another – it will be months before we have better data to predict the outcomes of DV2016 – and even then, predictions vary over time. So – all you can do for now is wait until we are further into the year – and make sure you have a plan B.
July 19, 2015 at 20:50
Hi there.
country: iran
Case: AS84XX
Any chance?
Am i above the 7% limit for iran?
July 21, 2015 at 04:07
No chance because the final Asia cutoff has been set at 7650.
July 8, 2015 at 09:33
Pleaz how many people have betwen 44250-60000 ,i don’t see in this post ,i just saw the number of cn whose is 5188
July 8, 2015 at 18:59
We work on case numbers because we don’t know the family member numbers before the case is scheduled. You can assume at least 2 family per case number.
July 8, 2015 at 07:11
Hi Brit,
How can we assume that how many visas to be issued to Iranians while the cases scheduled up to 6850 until end of July? If Iran will not reach their maximum, who will be decided the number of visas to be issued up to end of September for Iranians?
July 8, 2015 at 19:03
It isn’t “decided” as such – it will depend on how many cases are approved and cleared through AP.
July 1, 2015 at 18:17
Hello mr brits my No is Af57**** can i have a chance for interview,thanks for ur cooperantion
July 1, 2015 at 21:33
Did you read the post above? What does that post say?
June 26, 2015 at 09:55
HI rafik where are you from ?
June 24, 2015 at 10:43
is (pretty optimistic) means good chance or small chance ???? i mean CN between 55×××-60xxx
June 24, 2015 at 16:18
“Wait and see”. less than three weeks.
June 22, 2015 at 15:25
hi Brit
before your forecast for Europe was 38-41000 …
Now, when you say that the quota will be 19500-20000 which your forecast …?
June 22, 2015 at 15:50
You are comparing two different things.
One is the forecast for case numbers. The other is the quota of issued visas.
June 21, 2015 at 10:48
Thanks alot simon
June 20, 2015 at 23:26
Simon. You will ask your self why i am repeating my questions. Here, because i reviewed vb since 2002 and i found two disappointing years. 2007 and 2009 one last vb at 22900 for egypt and other at 23900 which almost near my number 240##. Thats why i am afraid from new year specially that egypt every year they are selecting around 4800 for interview.
June 21, 2015 at 00:37
Again. The numbers from one year to the next mean nothing. DV2014 had AF numbers up to 116000 – and the highest number to go current was 81100. Nigeria was then excluded and the highest case number is now 89799 – 25000 less. So – 24000 from DV2014 is NOT the same as 24000 in DV2015 and we don’t know how DV2016 will look.
Once I can get more information I can give you better information.
So – just relax.