OK – since the Visa Bulletin was released I have had a lot of questions about the pace of the visa bulletin – many of those questions from Nepal which was 2400 for October and 2450 for November – an increase of only 50. So – this post will explain why that happens which will help Nepalese selectees, but also explain to others so they will understand when their regions go so.
So – the objective of KCC is NOT to schedule every case number and make people happy. Their job is to organize the work of all the interviews, spreading that load over the year and trying to get as close as possible to the target quotas for each region. They DON’T CARE whether a person is from one country or another within any given region. They are filling the quotas by region, not by country.
OK – I said they spread the workload over the year. Why is that? Well they don’t want to have the embassies working at a furious rate in the first 3 months and then have no DV work in the final 9 months – that would not be a sensible way to manage the workload. They also like to pace the process to give all selectees a chance to process their forms.
So – in order to give out the visas they know they have to keep within embassy capacity (how many DV cases each embassy can process) and consider the pace they want to achieve. So they roughly divide the number of interviews they will need by about 10. Using 10 rather than 12 months will allow for some adjustment and for September to be a “clearing up” month (for AP cases mainly). By the way – they got this wrong in DV2015 – so this is not a perfect science.
So now they know how many interviews are needed in one region per month. If we take Nepal embassy as an example it will help explain the process – but the process is applied to a region just like this.
Let us imagine they expect to issue 3500 visas in Nepal. That means they need to approve 350 per month (dividing by 10). In reality, early months will see less approved than 350, and later months will see more per month – because AP cases will be delayed approvals from the beginning and will count in later months. So – to approve 350 visas they might interview 380 (this depends on the success rate which in Nepal is very high). 380 people will come from about 230 cases (each case representing about 1.65 people with family members – again, varies by country).
Right – so in October KCC would have looked at their Nepalese cases and said how many cases do we need to make current to yield 230 interviews. They could ONLY pick cases that were fully processed (the DS260 forms were processed) so they had to make numbers up to 2400 current for October. In reality there were other Nepalese cases within that 2400 that had already submitted their forms but the processing was not completed. Nepal probably has around 300 cases per 1000 case numbers – so less than half of the cases had been processed in time for October interviews. Roughly speaking it seems that DS260s had been processed if submitted by late May.
OK – so then time moved on and they were looking at November interviews. Now more DS260 forms have been processed – probably (and this is a guess which we will only be able to confirm when we see 2NLs go out) up to about mid to late June. Many of those cases were under 2400 – so even if they had not increased the Nepal number at all they probably could have got close to their target of 230 interviews. In fact they decided they needed 50 more case numbers which would have been a handful of additional Nepalese cases.
Since Nepalese selectees typically submit their cases early in the process (based on what I saw last year), I suspect that this slow VB progress for Nepal will continue next month also – maybe increasing by another 200/300 at most. Later, as the backlog is less of an impact for Nepal, numbers will begin to increase as the backlog will be less of a factor.
Now for other regions and countries – there is a lesson to be learned from this. Other regions (AF region and EU for instance) have had large starting numbers also. Looking at EU for instance almost one third of all the case numbers for EU are already current in month 2. That can only indicate that many DS260s were submitted “late” (June/July/August) and there will be a slow down later in the process. So – EU may see one more good increase next month and then backlog cases will start to absorb most of the available interview slots. AF region will have the same issue.
In Dv2015 this backlog effect continued right up to the last VB. There will always be late submissions. and it is somewhat predictable by country/region. So – I know that Nepalese will have responded faster than the rest of Asia for instance. Africa is slow to submit and therefore backlog will be a drag on interviews until the end of the year.
The point is, you cannot look at one visa bulletin and assume every month will have the same pace. Once I have the CEAC data I can predict the visa bulletin increases quite reliably, but that won’t be possible for months yet as the DV2016 data is not in the CEAC system yet.
Anyway – I hope this helps explain what is going on….
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September 10, 2015 at 16:54
Hello for your daughter from Venezuela
September 10, 2015 at 16:55
🙂 Thanks!
September 10, 2015 at 16:59
Hi Brit when dv-2017
September 10, 2015 at 17:30
I think it will be announce in a couple of weeks and entry will start about October 1.
October 2, 2015 at 18:49
Hi Brit what becomes of me if I remain on AP untile September ends 2015 ?
September 10, 2015 at 17:14
Dear Brit. 🙂
Thanks a lots for this post. I was too worried with low increased in November VB.But now my all doubt are clear 🙂
Please pass my greetings to your daughter, hope one day I will able to some financial help …..
AS ***37** (Nepal)
September 10, 2015 at 17:29
Glad it helped and thanks for the message to Sofia!
September 10, 2015 at 17:27
Do we expect increase of 2500 Af in bulletin of December big hii to your daughter from Morocco
September 10, 2015 at 17:29
Yes that would be reasonable…
September 10, 2015 at 19:14
Hi Britsimon,
Is there any specific quota for each country? For example what is Sudan quota for this year?
September 10, 2015 at 19:56
No the quota is for the region, not by country. However, no individual country can take more than 7% of the worlds visas, and because Nepal has so many entries and has a huge response and success rate – they can reach the 7% limit of 3500 visas.
September 10, 2015 at 20:41
Hola Sofia
Greetings from Egypt land of Pharaohs..ask your dad to visit the pyramids oneday 😀
September 10, 2015 at 22:36
Ha – nice idea!
September 10, 2015 at 21:07
Hello Mister brit
ONE By the end of DV2015, how fast the ds260 were processed? Were it processed in months or the timing to process did go down to a couple of weeks? How long do you think the backlog now is? Can you make a chart please?
TWO Is it ok if i renew my passport just weeks before the interview and show the new passport and the old passport to the CO?
Thank you a lot Mister bitsimonn
September 10, 2015 at 22:35
DV015 time reduced to about 4 weeks.
I can’t be precise at the moment because we only have one month so far.
Yes you can renew your passport and take both to the interview.
September 10, 2015 at 22:32
Hi brit I m from nepal and my case number is AS****50***.when can I expect for my 2NL. I completed my DS 260 at end of June.
September 10, 2015 at 22:37
You have several months to wait – probably next spring/early summer.
September 10, 2015 at 23:57
Hi
my case number 2016Af00011×××
I’m waiting new baby next two week my no current this month today i ask Kcc to unlock my ds260 form they can unlocked after current?
If they unlocked and added new baby and i change address and passport No because i renew the passport the process it take how long? Thanks you
September 10, 2015 at 23:59
Once you are scheduled you cannot unlock your form. It sounds like you might want to consider unlocking now to include the child and make the corrections needed. That might cause a delay, but it would be much easier to process that way.
September 11, 2015 at 03:26
thanks Brit
September 11, 2015 at 03:31
Hy angel Sofia..
In the world still we have some good people. Your father is one of them who helps people. To be proud of your father.
God bless you.
September 11, 2015 at 05:24
Thank you!
September 11, 2015 at 03:45
hi brit,,
i sumbitted my ds260 form at end of may.my case no is as 0004* * *. i just got my high school degree but during the perocessing period of ds260 , i was preparing for my exams so i mentioned high school,no degree in the form.. will it harm in my 2nl arrival ??
September 11, 2015 at 05:24
No, that will not affect your 2NL
September 11, 2015 at 04:09
Thanks brit sir for explaination .i m very glad for u.
September 11, 2015 at 07:54
Dear Sophia
You are quite fortunate to have daddy like Mr.Simon who has made place in everyone’s heart and mind because of his selfless service to support entire DV selectees.I will definitely provide financial support to your Tree-house project once I get success on dv process.
THANKS A LOT MR.SIMON FOR YOUR VALUABLE INFORMATION.
September 11, 2015 at 18:23
Thank you for you kind words!
September 11, 2015 at 09:03
sir,thanks for you explaination.
September 11, 2015 at 09:21
Hi simon..attended interview with my wife today who is aprincipal applicant. I was told to sit aside as they ask my wife questions..they asked if am the husband she said yes..what she is doing…when she did her high school and she answered everything correctly…asked for evidence of our marriage we gave them the evidence which contains facebook messages ..whatsapp and emails…i have like 3000 pages of facebook messages but i printed 30 pages and 30 pages of whatsapp chats..am working out of the country and i come once ayear ..the co..returned our orinal document and the passports she told me look of another way of getting to US..ur visa has been refused..she gave us apink paper…is their anything we can do please..we are really down ..
September 11, 2015 at 15:26
Well the pink piece of paper should have information about why it has been refused. If it is a 221(g) refusal there is a chance. But in general there is not an appeal process.
September 11, 2015 at 09:49
Hi Sir Simon i am 2016Af000303**and i fill form ds260 in june 12.pls wen can i be current approximatly.
September 11, 2015 at 15:23
https://britsimonsays.com/when-will-i-have-an-interview/
September 11, 2015 at 11:42
Thank you so much for your explanations and it created big hopes for all those Nepalese and dvwinner. Big hug and love for Sofia from your Nepali uncle!!
September 11, 2015 at 15:19
Thanks!
September 11, 2015 at 11:48
Great sequential explanation ..
Like it .
Helllo for Sofia ,
I am sure she is becoming a DV consultant day by day ?
September 11, 2015 at 15:17
LOL – thanks!
September 11, 2015 at 14:07
Mr Brit.
I wish to know if I can check if my visa is ready online. Had to pick it yesterday but had a call from the embassy to pick it up today Friday . But when I got to the embassy at 12 noon, the security men, said the embassy had closed for today (11 30 AM). The distance from my town to where the embassy is located is too far.
Thanks
September 11, 2015 at 15:17
You can check on CEAC, but it won’t be a precise/reliable statement, so No you must check with the embassy directly.
September 11, 2015 at 19:38
Oh dear Simon, you are such a big brother to many. Your valuable information saves many from heartaches.
To Sofia, its such a blessing to have a daddy who sows good seeds for you to reap at the right time. You are indeed privileged to have such a dad. Many more healthy and wealthy years to you and your daddy.
September 11, 2015 at 20:01
Thank you for the kind comments.
September 11, 2015 at 19:39
Am from Tanzania in East Africa
September 11, 2015 at 20:59
Hi Mr. Brit
My greetings to Sofia, I know she will read my message. You have a great father, follow his advises I am sure and strongly believe with his guidance you will go far. It takes godly, humble person to do what your father is doing and sharing with us free of charge. May the Lord bless him together with his whole family with what their hearts desire.
September 11, 2015 at 21:52
Thank you Jo!
September 11, 2015 at 22:33
Today i unlock my ds260 form for adding baby my case no current if I submit my form in October when i can get 2nd letter?
Can i submit my ds form by birth certificate because the passport process it take time?
Thank you
September 12, 2015 at 00:00
Adding the baby should not add time at all. So – your schedule date will remain unchaged – based on when you originally submitted your DS260 and your region/case number
September 12, 2015 at 00:52
Hello Simon. Hope you’re doing well!
An off-topic question, please forgive me: AFAIK no announcement has been made regarding DV-2017, should we be worried? The program hasn’t been canceled or something, right?
Thanks in advance!!
BTW, I was a DV-2015 winner but never became current 🙁
September 12, 2015 at 01:43
No we should not be worried DV2016 was announced just a few days before registration started.
September 12, 2015 at 06:10
Thanks a lot for your efforts uncle Brit, really appreciate your posts and updates.
September 12, 2015 at 14:28
Mr. Britsimon, am on AP for 6 months from ROA. are they clearing the old pending cases first? am worried and anxious. tnx alot
September 13, 2015 at 03:49
No – cases clear when they clear – and then go on a waiting list
September 12, 2015 at 17:34
Hello mr.simon
am dv2016 winner n my number is af47***
i hope n pray will get a chance.
So my question is,can i still fill dv2017? Is there any problem?
Thank you
September 13, 2015 at 03:45
No problem to play DV2017
September 12, 2015 at 18:51
hi brit. pls should an applicant pass all subjects in the high school certificate exams before he becomes eligible? my cn is 10***af. submitted ds on 4 sept.
September 13, 2015 at 03:50
Yes – the applicant needs to meet the education standard.
September 12, 2015 at 19:15
Good evening my boss.Please i will like to know from you whether UN-locking an application a day alone to can cause a delay in one’s schedule of interview. Thanks
September 13, 2015 at 02:12
https://britsimonsays.com/does-unlocking-cause-delays/
September 12, 2015 at 22:46
Dear Simon
I am working in the country which I will be interview I have resident permit there unfortunately the company transfer me to the other country because they have project there I already started my job there since one year but I returned back to my resident country three times to renew my exit and re entry and I requested kcc to unlock my Ds260 to add the new address in that country . My question; I have no present address now in my resident country but I will travel only to make my interview . Is there any problem to travel to the country just for interview noting that I don’t want to change my interview location because I lived in that country for more than 15 years
September 13, 2015 at 02:09
Just give an address near the embassy that you want.
September 13, 2015 at 11:29
hello mr brit i would ask you .. my little sister have 17 years old and she will bz 18 in mars .. she can be new entrant for 2017 ? thank you
September 13, 2015 at 16:08
She can enter – anyone can. She must meet the requirements.
September 13, 2015 at 16:43
WHAT IF EGYPT AND ETHIOPIA DON’t GO CURRENT THIS year what impact this will have on the final cut off
September 13, 2015 at 20:12
They won’t go current as such – but they will probably have the limit removed which is almost the same (for those two countries). This is already factored in – so there is no point talking about the impact on the final cut off.
September 13, 2015 at 20:48
Britsimon but now she have only 17 years old … born at mars 1998 .. maybe not ? because if she win she will be in 18 years old …
September 13, 2015 at 20:50
A 17 year old can be approved. It is not a matter of age it is whether they meet the education requirement or not – exactly as I already replied!
September 14, 2015 at 11:35
Hi brit Sir, I heard that last year 2015 all visas for Nepal i.e. 3500 were not approved. Less than 3500 had been approved. Is it true and what about this current year?
September 14, 2015 at 19:28
The 3500 is not an allowance for Nepal. Sometimes they will issue less than that, and in some years they can even exceed that.
September 16, 2015 at 11:03
But they say that 7% quota is for specific region and that for Nepal. Another question is that upto now do you identify the holes between cases specially in Asia and Nepal. That is less than 2015 or more.If yes then pls leave info here.
September 16, 2015 at 13:45
Forget what “they” say. Listen to what I say.
Until we get the Ceac data for dv2016 we won’t know the hole rate exactly, but it will be similar to last year, most likely.
September 14, 2015 at 13:54
HI Mr .Brit received my passport finally i`d like to thank you a lot for your efforts during this year thank a lot
but do i have to travel to USA before 30 September?
September 14, 2015 at 19:22
Congratulations.
No you must travel before the expiry of the visa – but that can be after 9/30.
September 14, 2015 at 19:17
thank you brit 🙂
September 15, 2015 at 01:26
Hello from sunny Morocco to your daughter,
what all you have done to spread the information is unique all over the world.
we ask the mighty god to prospere you and protect you and your family from all the ups and downs of life, may you live only the happiest life you would wish.
your precious time dedicated to inform the nation will clean your path from all bumps.
Youssef from Morocco,
September 15, 2015 at 03:04
Thank you Youssef
September 15, 2015 at 06:35
Hlow brit is there any chance of being current for nepal this year
September 15, 2015 at 10:58
No.
September 15, 2015 at 08:15
Hi Simon. What’s the waiting time on getting a passport back from the embassy after successful interview? Mine is a week today. Should I be worried?? Getting very unfriendly people when I call up the embassy in Ireland. Is this the norm with them? I had flights booked. Had to re arrange and now might have to rearrange again. Thanks C
September 15, 2015 at 10:54
It takes “around” a week typically – but varies by embassy. Only they can tell you for sure.
September 15, 2015 at 09:07
Any ideas when will Dv 2017 start?
September 15, 2015 at 09:14
October 2nd
September 15, 2015 at 10:52
Around October 1
September 15, 2015 at 09:13
I want to thank you for all your efforts, my visa has been Approved and Printed in Casablanca, Morocco. I have a small, stupid question, when I picked it up from Aramex (Logistics Company) My passport is stapled to the yellow envelope, is it ok to separate them?
September 15, 2015 at 10:51
You can take the passport off the envelope but must not open the yellow envelope.
September 15, 2015 at 15:13
Yes I know, thanks Brit 😀
September 15, 2015 at 09:30
Dear Simon
Case Number 2016AS000045xx when expected my 2 NL submitted Ds 260, May 30 and resubmit on September 6
September 15, 2015 at 10:49
https://britsimonsays.com/when-will-i-have-an-interview/
September 15, 2015 at 10:05
Hi Brit!
Hope you are fine as I am..
Brit! Have you heard of someone placing on AP till the end of the DV program because I am a suffering from it due low affidavit of support, no request of another but place me on AP said maybe call me for another..
Please help me explain please Brit I am worry!
September 15, 2015 at 10:47
Yes MANY people have stayed on AP until the end of the year and if they fail to provide required documents by September 30 they will not get a visa.
September 15, 2015 at 10:34
I have provided an address of US while filling DS -260 form. If i get 2NL and have to arrange sponsorship then should get sponsorship from the same person ? or i can get sponsorship from another person?
Another question is, should i have any close relationship with sponsor or a friend can provide that? Will there be any problem if i can not prove relationship with that person?
I am asking this question because my relative has provided sponsorship to another DV winner so may be he can not sponsor me.
September 15, 2015 at 10:44
https://britsimonsays.com/all-about-public-charge-affidavit-of-support-i-134/
September 15, 2015 at 10:57
Dear Simon
Case Number 2016AS000045xx when expected my 2 NL submitted Ds 260, May 30 and resubmit on September 6
September 15, 2015 at 11:04
Good morning Sir,you must be busy preparing the mid month CEAC data….keep up the good work.
September 15, 2015 at 11:04
LOL!
September 15, 2015 at 11:44
Brit my case is different I want to submit new one but the consular said I only submit when they contact me! So Brit will they contact me or continue and submit one online to then and wait….
September 15, 2015 at 12:00
I don’t know what they plan to do. But this is your choice. You can sit and wait and hope, or you can get another I-134 ready and submit it proactively.
September 15, 2015 at 16:04
Hello Simon, am just curious if some refusals are premeditated and why collect fees from poor citizens when the case has been flagged off. Cant KCC decline to schedule a case they flag red? Or is this a speculative observation
September 15, 2015 at 16:10
KCC cannot decline a case under any circumstances. Everyone has their chance to make their case in front of a CO.
September 15, 2015 at 18:49
Hello there , I’m worry about ceac !!! When Im writing my case number it shows invalid case number error! What you think? Is it normal?
September 15, 2015 at 21:27
If you are DV2016 that is totally normal because the 2016 cases are not loaded yet.
September 16, 2015 at 03:53
Maybe he is including the 0s. He needs to remove the 0s.