The “December” visa bulletin has been published. It concerns the case numbers eligible for January interviews.
For those that are current, and have forms processed early enough, they can expect their 2NL in about 1 to 2 weeks from now. I know I am going to get a lot of people who will ask me this exact question – so let me say that again. 2NLs will be sent in about one or two weeks time.
It is possible that some people will be current for January interviews, but will not be scheduled in January because they submitted late, or there is a processing backlog that causes a delay. December interviews were based mainly on cases submitted up to mid June. I expect the January interviews to be allocated to cases submitted up to (roughly) mid July. That is an educated guess, we will be able to confirm that when the 2NLs start to come out.
To those new to looking at VBs, let me explain what the “except” XXX country means (for Iran Nepal, Egypt and Ethiopia).
Processing is spread out over the full year. You can see the progress of the two previous years in this post about basic questions. However, some countries have a high number of selectees and those selectees are concentrated in the lower case numbers. For various reasons, mainly to do with embassy capacity, KCC slow down certain countries as compared to the region. So – in Africa, any case with a case number of 13500 can be interviewed but for cases from Egypt or Ethiopia, that number is lower. That isn’t a big problem, it just “slows down” those countries a little more than the rest of the region. Since selectees from those countries all have lower case numbers, this slowing down does not present any risk. It does not (at this point) mean they won’t allow all selectees an interview from those countries.
To understand why some countries get lower case numbers, read this article about the lottery draw process.
Read this link if you are unsure how to read the visa bulletin.
Now, I am sure I am also going to get asked about the presidential election that was held a few hours ago. Staggeringly, Trump won. He has been very vocal about some, frankly, very misinformed policies he would like to enact. People will be fearful that the DV program will be cancelled immediately. It won’t be. It is run by laws, not presidential whim. The president cannot act in a unilateral way. So – whilst there has been a desire by some to reform immigration for years, that process cannot happen overnight. Therefore DV2017 and DV2018 will both go ahead unaffected. My guess is that DV2019 will also, because that lottery starts just a few months after Trump will come to power and there would not be any time to change the laws by that time. So the earliest change possible to the DV program is for the DV2020 year – and even that is not clear. So for now, nothing changes regarding the DV program.
November 15, 2016 at 03:30
hello simion, I have lost access to gmail ID which I used while filling DS-260 from. Now will it effect me while I get second notification. Should I need to get access same Mail ID at any cost? Plz Clear me. Thank You
November 15, 2016 at 15:56
You don’t really need the email. When you hear other 2NLs go out, you simply check the ESC site – that is where the interview date is communicated.
November 15, 2016 at 09:09
Case no: 12***
Current for January
Submitted Ds-260 around may 24/2016
Never unlock my Ds-260
I hope I will get my 2nd letter 100% in the coming days right ya?
November 15, 2016 at 15:53
November 19, 2016 at 11:14
hi Mr brit
November 19, 2016 at 11:26
does the work history matter i mean i was unemployed when i fill the DS 260 now i got a job do i have to unlock and correct it or that is ok?
by the way am qualified by education CN AF 9*** and expecting my 2NL next week.
November 19, 2016 at 16:13
November 15, 2016 at 13:22
Hello mr Brit
I sent an e-mail to kcc , ask them to tell me if my case has been scheduled for an interview , and they respond me with ”Your forms have been received and pending further embassy review for the continuation of your visa processing. Interviews are scheduled numerically based on case numbers that have completed processing.” Is that mean that my case now is under embessy processing ? and I will be soon scheduled !
November 15, 2016 at 15:00
November 15, 2016 at 14:12
Hello brit !
My case number is 49## from Nepal
When will i get the second call .
I am kind of worried
November 15, 2016 at 14:57
November 15, 2016 at 15:14
Simon, my email has been hacked. I don’t have access to that ID. That is the same ID given in DS-260 from? Will it effect? Will I get any notification in email??? Should I need to change? Worried!!! Plz suggest.
November 15, 2016 at 17:53
They will send the 2NL by email, BUT when the emails are sent (which happens once per month) you can simply check the ESC page to get your interview details. The interview details are NOT in the email.
November 15, 2016 at 18:17
I’ve called kcc two weeks ago, their answer was that my forms were processed. I called now kcc to ask if I’m going to be scheduled for january, the answer was not for january. My question is: are their answers updated? Thanks for your help
November 15, 2016 at 18:34
What is your case number (including region)?
November 15, 2016 at 19:10
I’m current, case number 2017AF0001xxxx
November 15, 2016 at 19:22
Well in that case you have been told incorrect information one or the other times you contacted KCC. I suggest you just wait and see whether you get scheduled in this next batch. Calling them doesn’t make it go faster.
November 15, 2016 at 19:45
Thank you for reply
November 15, 2016 at 19:25
It’s two weeks from today 15 November still don’t receive my appointment date, I was really expecting it today. Please till me what exactly happening?
November 16, 2016 at 07:38
MY CN IS AF 18XXX. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT MY HUSBAND(DERIVATIVE) MOVE FIRST AND ME AND MY CHILDREN FOLLOW SO THAT MY HUSBAND CAN CREATE THE NECESSARY CONDITIONS TO LIVE THERE. WE CAN MOVE BEFORE THE VISA DATE EXPIRES.
November 16, 2016 at 14:59
No. The derivative must enter with or after the principal.
November 16, 2016 at 09:04
Please my CN is 2017AF00015*** n i can see is current. I submitted dv260 on 19September n have unlock it twice since then.1. When will my interview letter come?.2. I hope i will not miss my chance
November 16, 2016 at 14:58
It will be in 2 or 3 months time. The late submission delayed your case but that is not a problem.
November 16, 2016 at 09:23
Hi – thanks for your invaluable help on behalf of all of us.
My number is EU259xx, and based on what I can see, we should be fine, and likely to be scheduled for an interview mid-April or so.
The thing is, since we live in Africa (expats), and my interview will be in Europe (I just find it very difficult to get all the documents and medicals sorted here), we’d prefer to have the interview in the 2nd half of June, since by then we will have returned home.
Based on your experience, do you think I’ll jeopardize my chances if we move the interview from April (or May) to end of June, given or EU259xx number
November 16, 2016 at 14:57
There will still be visas at that time BUT asking to reschedule, and move to another embassy introduces risk that they mess something up. And the idea that you can pick when in the month you are scheduled (like a hair appointment) made me chuckle. So – I would suggest you have the interview they schedule.
November 17, 2016 at 09:12
Apologies for the misunderstanding – I do not plan to change interview location – just the date.
My biggest challenge is that we’ll all need to travel to Europe for the interview, and my kids will miss school for probably a week.
The other, unrelated, issue, is that I was born in Germany (and moved on after 1 month), but have Bosnian citizenship, and I used Bosnian eligibility. Well, now I know I should have used Germany. From what I can read on different forums, it should not be a major issue (e.g. my wife was born in Bosnia), but it could cause a bit of a delay.
And if what I wrote made you chuckle, great and I am glad, but frankly, don’t see any harm in asking.
November 17, 2016 at 14:27
Don’t forget that you all have to have medicals in the country where you interview shortly before the interview (about 1 to 2 weeks before is typical) and once interviewed they will keep your passports for another week or two (if approved).
November 20, 2016 at 13:07
Thanks. To summarize, and I would appreciate your opinion on this:
1. Initially I put Sarajevo as our interview location (We are Bosnians, and we lived there prior to my expat assignment to Lagos, Nigeria). Our number is EU25xxx. Most likely, our interview will be scheduled for Mid April – May (DV260 sent on Sep 15 – I was selected in the 2nd draw). Now, we live in Nigeria, and my contract is until June. Because of the logistics, and the likely chance that our kids would have to be absent for at least a week from school if we were to attend the interview in Sarajevo, I am considering changing the interview location to Lagos, Nigeria. We pretty much have all the paperwork, and we’ll complete our medicals here in Nigeria. My view is that, since the interviews have not been scheduled yet and are 5+ months away, this is our best bet, and the chances for a mix-up on their end are marginal. What’s your view?
2. I was born in Germany, but I mistakenly put Bosnia as my country of eligibility. I have Bosnian passport, my parents are Bosnians who live in Bosnia, my wife is Bosnian, and I have lived most of my life in Bosnia. Both countries (Germany and Bosnia) are under EU quotas, both qualify, and I have read on your website as well as other forums what are the rules, and the experiences of others. My take is that this should not be an issue, but what’s your opinion?
November 20, 2016 at 14:22
1. I don’t really have an opinion – it’s your call.
2. It isn’t a problem. You can claim it isn’t a mistake at all. It could be explained as elective cross charging to your wife’s country of birth. But either way – not a problem.
November 16, 2016 at 10:31
You said that you expect the January interviews to be allocated to cases submitted up to mid July.
Is that for the cases that were supposed to be scheduled in the last months or for the January cases.
November 16, 2016 at 14:52
November 16, 2016 at 12:53
If I got tuberculosis
Will I be simply rejected or
They will post pond me??
November 16, 2016 at 14:42
It would delay you while you are treated. If there is not enough time to treat you before the end of September you would not be approved.
November 16, 2016 at 15:12
I am current now
Will I make it?
November 16, 2016 at 17:34
There is time.
November 16, 2016 at 13:28
hi brit how is life treating u bro
do u think February VB released this weekend and may they send 2NL @ the same time?
November 16, 2016 at 14:38
THe next VB won’t be published until next month. Just like EVERY OTHER MONTH.
2NLs will probably go out in the next week or so.
November 16, 2016 at 14:01
Hello Brit I have a question about host. I fill host information on my ds 260 form.
1.Should I inform them when I get 2nl and what they have to do over their side?
My cn is AF00013*** and submitted ds260 on may 12 and unlock and resubmitted on jun 9
2.so am I will be current
November 16, 2016 at 14:35
1. It depends whether you are preparing an I-134 or not. If your embassy accepts the host “system” then your host does not need to do anything. Read the link below for more info.
2. You might get an interview in January IF you are not from Egypt.
November 17, 2016 at 07:48
I am not preparing anything . i did not fill I-134 just i filled host address on ds260
November 16, 2016 at 16:01
Thank you for the website and guidance in between. Our interview is over and the visa is issued. Hopefully will be traveling soon before end of the year.
November 16, 2016 at 16:23
Hello Simon. I wanted to ask you. Im from EU case number 21xxx. The 2NL its going a bit slower and im not used to this things. Can you tell me if the 2NL will reach this case number and if you pressume in what month can it be? Thank you! Good Work in your page, Congrats.
November 16, 2016 at 17:32
It is all as normal.
November 17, 2016 at 00:26
We are DV2016 winner. We went to the US and activated our LPR status in Aug. Husband and wife(me) received the green cards three weeks ago. But daughter has yet to receive as of today. We emailed USIS office last week and yet to get a reply. I guess all we can do is to wait but still would like to ask for your advice in case we miss some procedures that we should have known. Thanks Simon.
November 17, 2016 at 00:44
Just wait for the reply. If in a month you still don’t have it, make an infopass appointment with USCIS.
November 20, 2016 at 02:04
Received today a reply that they need to further research on our case why daughter’s green card is not received. They didn’t said the card is sent out or not.
We checked our status on USCIS, it said that a biometric appointment is set for my daughter (she is 5) and the appointment letter was sent on Oct 30. But we didn’t receive the said letter as of today.
Is it a normal procedure that kids would need a biometric made before a card is issued? Thanks Simon.
November 20, 2016 at 06:45
Regardless of whether it is normal or not – follow their instructions.
November 17, 2016 at 08:04
i’m winner of 2017th. lottery of the US and I’m from Iran. As you know every thing is a bit instable in Turkey due to political issues and I am supposed to be there for the interview with my wife. Our case number is around 4000. I don’t want to unlock my DS form. should I send and email to KCC and ask them to change the country and transfer all my procedure from Turkey to Abu dhabi or that you don’t think this would be a good idea.
I’m afraid that the email would postpone the study of my case.
Thank you in advance for your kind reply.
November 17, 2016 at 14:30
To change AD, you would need to unlock your DS260 and change your current address to one in AD. THen you would email KCC and ask them to change your interview location. However, if your address is not changed, KCC will pick the interview location, based on their procedures.
November 17, 2016 at 08:18
Hi mr Simon
My CN is AF16*** from Ethiopia, i submited the DS-260 form on may 23 and unloacked it two times on september to correct educational information. What do you think, i will be current for february interview or the unlocking may delay my process? Thank you in advance.
November 17, 2016 at 14:28
The unlocking won’t delay.
November 17, 2016 at 09:55
thank you for the work that you do.
My CN is AF … 17 XXX. I sent the ds260 on July 5 and I send it back on August 24th.
You think I’ll get my 2 NL this month ?
thank you very much.
November 17, 2016 at 14:22
November 17, 2016 at 14:32
hi brit u told me before VB released two times each month ( @ 8 &15) but still this month they released once , what do u think my bro
November 17, 2016 at 14:41
I have NEVER said it is released two times a month. I often say it is released some time BETWEEN the 8th and the 15th.
November 17, 2016 at 14:45
Marriage after registration, but before the results are announced
and my wife have a son , her son is not my biological chlid . How to complete our DS260 ? 1 Principal ds260 applicant , spouse ds260
and is it necessari to add the child’s ds260 ? (child will find us after in usa )
November 17, 2016 at 15:00
The step child must be listed on your own forms (both of yours). You only complete a DS260 for the child if the child wants a GC at the same time through the DV program.
November 17, 2016 at 15:38
Hi Simon .juste a précision, i was single in my initial registration. my spouse son have 5 years old . so if i’ve understound i must confirme that a have a son un my principal ds260 even if he’s not m’y biological chlid and list it aigain un my spouse ds260 form. Thank u Simon
November 17, 2016 at 18:13
How to help your website i have not a visa card .perhaps via western union
November 17, 2016 at 23:59
Don’t worry about that…
November 17, 2016 at 23:48
Once you married, that child became a step child of yours – so yes – the child must be listed on your form too.
November 17, 2016 at 16:51
i want to know if i can get the medical exam before the 2nd letter maybe my interview will be in march?
November 17, 2016 at 23:58
That would be unwise. The visa expiry date is based on the medical date plus 6 months. Wait until you get the 2NL.
November 17, 2016 at 19:23
My CN is AF…..4xx. I send my ds26 on july 20th. U think i’ll get my 2NL in this month
November 18, 2016 at 00:00
November 17, 2016 at 21:46
My CaseNumber is EU12xxx and I submited on 16 july. What do you think, that I will get an interview or not ? If not should I write to KCC to ask them for my interview? Will be helpful or not?
November 18, 2016 at 00:03
No need to write. You will be scheduled, maybe in the next batch (2NL in the next week, interviews in January) or the batch after that (2NL in the next month, February interviews).
November 18, 2016 at 21:48
Thank you for your help! I appreciate it!
November 18, 2016 at 02:00
November 18, 2016 at 14:50
hi brit i have another question i put in my ds 260 that i have a high school and title degree but my tilte degrre it got lost the govermen is given me a new one what happens if at the moment of the interviews i havent receved the degree title right now i have my high school degree with me
November 18, 2016 at 17:43
Any one got 2nl ????? For jan interview from Asia???
November 18, 2016 at 21:40
November 18, 2016 at 17:56
Thank you for all your help , I would like to ask you about the visa status check web site (why this website doesn’t work for DV 2017 case numbers although it work with 2016 dv ? and show this message if I check my number ” Invalid Immigrant Visa Case Number” My number 2017AF38xx ,Note: I finished my interview but i didn’t got my passport yet.
November 18, 2016 at 21:40
They haven’t loaded the DV2017 cases yet. Same as last year – DV2016 cases were not in the system until January. Same thing the year before that.
November 18, 2016 at 23:24
sorry the degree that i dont have in may hand is my grapht desing degree
November 19, 2016 at 05:50
hi Mr simon
these following my documents for interview on my hand.
2. Confirmation page DS260 form
3. appointment letter
4. University Degree with transcript
5. secondary certificate
6. birth certificate
7. police certificate
9.two pictures Dv size
10. documents from sponsor
A. affidavit support form
B. tax return form
E. Citizen certificate
F. profit or loss form.
1. Recommendation letter from current company i work
2.Recommendation letter from previous company i work
3. Recommendation letter from my University
so please any advise and comment its import for me.
November 19, 2016 at 06:44
I have no particular advice. You are preparing fine.
November 21, 2016 at 07:34
Please sir, my case number is 2017AF00002xxx and i submitted my Ds-260 form on the 3rd of july 2016.Sir, i wish to know whether i will be part of the January interview.Thank you sir and hoping for your response
November 21, 2016 at 16:00
You will find out this week….
November 21, 2016 at 14:52
hi simon, A friend of my has been selected form Nepal. But he stays in indian for study. He mentioned current living in India. He is getting difficult to get police report form there. Will it work if he comes back to Nepal and get police report?? OR should he unlock ds260 from and mentioned current nepal and get it? what should be done. Thanks
November 21, 2016 at 15:41
What he should do is read the reciprocity page for India and follow the instructions.
November 22, 2016 at 11:20
hey basnet bro
m also selectee from.nepal and study at india .plz contact me ……….search on fb [email protected] or swarch on fb dipnrw raza
November 21, 2016 at 18:34
I am a winner of DV 2017, but I used the same photo of DV 2015,
my question is will I be disqualified or not?
thank you in advanced
November 21, 2016 at 18:36
Note I didn’t won before
November 21, 2016 at 23:16
That was against the rules, so if they realize the photo is old they could disqualify you. However, I think the chance of that is low.
November 21, 2016 at 19:20
2NLs for January interviews are being sent 😀
November 21, 2016 at 19:26
Do you have any more information regarding which ds260 submissions’ dates are being notified?
November 21, 2016 at 20:02
Received my 2nls..interview 4th,january ….case no af23***….ds260 submited 10/6/2016
November 21, 2016 at 20:02
Hi Simon, so happy to inform you i just got my 2NL.
CaseNumber EU14xxx submitted May 12th
Wish me luck
November 21, 2016 at 21:24
Could you please inform your country of chargeability and also if you have reopenned and resubmit your form. ( if so please inform the date)
November 22, 2016 at 07:36
Italy, never unlocked…
November 21, 2016 at 20:04
Interview Jan 25
November 21, 2016 at 20:28
2nd E-mail received for the Interview
Case : AF11xxx
Ds-260 : Submit 27/06
November 21, 2016 at 20:41
I’ve just my 2nl for an interview on january 12.
Ds submited on may 30 and resubmited on june 27
November 21, 2016 at 21:47
I received 2NL today 22NOV2016. Case Number 2017AF12XXX from Ethiopia Interview date January 04./
First DS260 submitted on JUN 3. Opened and filed again at Sep 29 to add
Educational qualifications. Thanks to GOD. ANd Good Luck to ALL .
God is Great.
November 21, 2016 at 23:13
November 23, 2016 at 13:31
can you please email me so that we can share interview experience on …[email protected]
November 21, 2016 at 22:19
2NLs for January are been sent.
DS-260 submited on 4th may, unlocked it and resent it on 19th June.
Interview is planned for 23rd January in US embassy in Athens, GR
November 21, 2016 at 23:12
November 23, 2016 at 13:34
can you Alex please email me on [email protected] so that we can share interview experiences ….
November 22, 2016 at 09:57
Hi Brit i am dv selected 2017 from Nepal. My case Number is approximately high for Nepal that is 72XX i submitted DS 260 form on June 2 but i will expect baby on December shall i reopen DS 260 from after my baby born or leave it as well. if i reopen, it should delay my process or not
hope for you suggestion
November 22, 2016 at 15:41
Yes you must reopen. It won’t delay.
November 22, 2016 at 16:10
Hello and thank you for everything you do.
What must I do when the day and month of my birth unknown?
In all my documents is written that the year like this “born in 1995”
November 22, 2016 at 16:53
Typically you then just write January 1 as your birthdate in the year of your birth. It might vary by local customs.
November 23, 2016 at 19:12
Hi brit got my 2Nls for january
November 23, 2016 at 19:16
Hi Max, when did you submit your DS 260?
November 23, 2016 at 19:18
Good luck with your interview
Can please tell us when did you submit your ds260..?
November 24, 2016 at 11:57
hi dear Simon am dv 2017 winner and when i fill ds 260 i am manager but my real work is government office leader so will it case refusale at a time of my interview?
-from AF region Ethiopia case number 27*** please guess my sechedule.thanks a lot
November 25, 2016 at 03:49
Our case number in 2017 dv, region OC in mid 500’s and is current now and waiting to be called for the interview. We submitted our DS-260 in August as we forgot to check it earlier. When we called the KCC centre last week they said that our DS-260 is complete and also shows ‘complete’ status in site https://ceac.state.gov/ceac/.
They also said the interview might might be in Feb..
In December bulletine the CN is upto 650 I think. We we are well within the numbers.
When do you think we will be called for interview?
November 25, 2016 at 05:50
Maybe February, but more likely March or even April. I doubt your DS260 is processed.
November 25, 2016 at 05:53
Can I find out whether it has been processed by calling the KCC centre?
November 25, 2016 at 14:37
Yes, but read this first.
November 28, 2016 at 21:31
I am really worried about my DS260 being delayed in processing. Is there any chance i might miss out on an interview?
How does the case number allocation work?
Once the cn becomes current does my number stay up until they have finished processing, and then jump the queue?
Thanks in advance
November 29, 2016 at 01:22
Cases are scheduled when they are current AS LONG AS the DS260 is processed. So – if your case becomes current before the DS260 is processed it cannot be scheduled. Once the DS260 is processed the case is scheduled in the next monthly batch.
Now, relax. You are worrying for nothing.
January 18, 2017 at 23:02
Hi Simon, we found out that our DS-260 is being processed by KCC. The processing started in mid December and we called today to find out and KCC said it is almost complete. Do you know how long the processing normally takes, and in my case I lived and worked in the US around 2001 for about 2 yrs. Because of this does the processing take longer than usual?
And what do they normally check?
January 18, 2017 at 23:23
Up to now in DV2017 it has been taking several months. March interviews will only include current cases with DS260 submissions up to early September. So – I would expect your case to take another month or two.
US stays don’t increase the time.
They do not publish the detail of the checks – nor would I, even if I knew.
February 5, 2017 at 23:18
My case number is in the mid 500’s OC and has been current since December, we submitted the DS-260 1st Sept 2016. We believe that our DS-260 processing has now been completed by KCC. So our case number is now ready to be scheduled for interview, does our case jump the normal queue for the 2NL when the visa bulletin gets issued this month?
February 6, 2017 at 04:06
It’s not “jumping the queue”. But yes, you most likely will be scheduled in the next batch.
December 12, 2016 at 04:54
Dear BritSimon, today is 12th December still visa bulletin for February was not published is it usual for these times according to your theory?
December 12, 2016 at 05:35
No, nothing unusual.
December 12, 2016 at 05:41
then may be coming days OK?
December 12, 2016 at 14:53
The VB comes out between the 8th and the 15th each month. This month will be the same.
December 13, 2016 at 05:03
yes, thanks it has been released
December 14, 2016 at 07:27
HI My name is faduma from somlia i filled my application form on 20 july and i have not yet my interview appointment i was axpecting to be interviewed in jan but i was not called and i didnt get any notification that has been send to the web so, what can i do sir? any idea!!!!!!!!
December 14, 2016 at 15:53
Yes, I have an idea!!!!!!!!
December 14, 2016 at 23:11
Does this mean that the processing times are same for all regions? Doesn’t OC region that has comparatively less number of selectees get their 2NL earlier, for example if submitted late August/1st sept, Feb is interview is possible?
December 15, 2016 at 00:30
A smaller region doesn’t mean faster processing. There is faster processing for selectees from countries with less security concerns, but otherwise it’s the about the same.
December 15, 2016 at 00:49
Hi Simon, do you know whether the 2NL’s for Feb 2017 gone out already?
Sorry for asking this again, so our case is has been current since last month, DS-260 submitted on 1st Sept. Do you think there is a possibility of getting the 2NL this round for Feb?
December 15, 2016 at 00:58
Your late submission means there is NO chance of a February interview. Once 2nls go out we will then see how much progress they have made.