This is excellent news (although it has some impacts).
You no longer have to submit documents to KCC to become DQ. You will be considered DQ once your DS260 has been submitted (and perhaps processed – see below).
This was announced this morning here: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/News/visas-news/diversity-visa-2022-update.html
I think they actually implemented this a few days ago because as I mentioned in a tweet yesterday there have been some highly unusual things observed where KCC had scheduled cases that had not received the DQ note, and some cases have been scheduled for December appointments. These things happened in several cases, so by yesterday it was clear that “something” was happening (but of course, there were some who insisted that KCC were “silent” – even though they were clearly doing things).
This will have some significant impacts.
- It should be MUCH faster to get to be “ready for scheduling”. According to their statement they say you will be ready for scheduling (RFS) as soon as all DS260s are received. It doesn’t mention ANY processing at all! Now that seems a bit bizarre, but if they are accurate in the choice of wording the DS260 submission means you are instantly RFS when you see “completed” on the DS260. I’m a little skeptical on this point – but that is what they are saying for now – please read the NOTE below the bulleted list.
- I have no idea what some people will do with their time now they don’t have to obsess about how many cases are DR/DQ today.
- If the “received” point is accurate, the date of DS260 submission just became completely unimportant . They are supposed to process cases in CN order, and the documents stage is where that was applied. So case number is now the important factor in scheduling.
- It is not clear yet whether they will send DQ emails to all cases – but again, according to their statement the DS260 submission is all you need.
- You will still need to gather documents for the interview.
- Those people that submitted entries without passports will be scheduled for interview as any other case. It still remains to be seen whether refusals will happen for people that did not have a legitimate reason for applying without a passport.
NOTE: I normally do not like “trusting” what DoS or KCC write without some other corroboration. There are many examples I can give where they contradict what they write, or simply don’t do exactly what they say. In this case I have written the bulleted list above with the assumption that they really mean RFS is from DS260 being received. No processing. As I mention above I am skeptical about that point, they may still do some processing. If they really mean “received and processed” then the date of DS260 submission could remain important. I imagine it will be some days or even weeks until we see the evidence of that – but for now (based partly on activity observed in the last few days) I will assume they mean only “received” as stated.
Now – this next point could be a BIG deal.
This makes it much less likely (but not impossible) that we will see the regions go current. Why? Well the visa bulletin progression is calculated based on visas available and “demand” – meaning how many people were DQ. Since KCC had implemented the document procedure about 4 years ago that got totally screwed up. Earlier this year I wrote to Charlie Oppenheim explaining the problem this caused and “begging” him to handle the demand based on DS260 submission. That is what we have now got. So – the demand is based on every DS260 submitted case – and there is therefore MUCH more demand than capacity on a monthly basis and likely more “demand” than the 55,000 visas available. Coupled with the fact that we have lost significant time already in DV2022 AND there are some embassies not operating at normal capacity, this change in processing is probably bad news for high case numbers.
July 9, 2022 at 07:39
Hello Brint
My CN is AF37+ do you think is high?
July 10, 2022 at 23:29
https://youtu.be/MXmfLFWJXD4
February 14, 2022 at 20:41
Hi Simon,
Thank you for your updates. I am a DV2022 winner lottery and my application status is still on KCC. My number is EU14XXX. I had emailed to the KCC asking for the status of my application and they responsed in several weeks, I will have a response. One month passed and still the application is on the same status. I completed my application at 31 May. So with change of the documents submission, which is not required any more, will I wait now for the invitation from the KCC for the embassy meeting? Will this invitation be sent via email?
Thank you in advance for your valuable time.
Regards,
Anastasia
February 14, 2022 at 23:57
KCC schedule the interviews. Of course the embassy itself has to be accepting interviews.
January 18, 2022 at 21:34
Hi Mr Simone,
I wanr to know if the processing of the dv 2021 which will be done in April can be included all the winners or it is just those who participated in the lawsuit
January 18, 2022 at 21:37
Only plaintiffs
January 11, 2022 at 05:54
Hi Mr Simon,
I received DQ that you mentioned, indeed they skip the some steps. But it almost a month since they sent me on dec 21 my case number current on visa bulletin.
I dont know what to do should i call the embassy on my country or email the kcc or is any other methods you could recommend me ?
Thank you so much
January 11, 2022 at 15:17
Your embassy doesn’t know anything about you until KCC sends your case. Be patient.
January 12, 2022 at 01:34
Hi Mr Simon,
Thank you so much for your kind response
I really appreciate it
Alright I guess theres no other method except waiting
Its just so confusing some people from forum received 2NL not even DQ
I guess this mean I’m on second priority then.. maybe..
And what happen after my current number pass on visa bulletin?
Can i still have to wait until 30 september 2022?
Thanks alot
Regards,
January 12, 2022 at 02:01
You just have to wait.
January 10, 2022 at 02:11
Dear Mr Simon
If the documents are written in the official language of the country where the embassy is resided , is it mandatory to have the documents translated?
Please advise, thank you
January 11, 2022 at 15:00
No
December 20, 2021 at 01:32
Dear Mr Simon
I am DV 2022 selectee, CN AS29XXX
My passport will be expired in May 2022
Based on current removal of document procedure, please advise whether I have to unlock my DS260 to update the passport info with the new one or can I just bring the old passport along during the interview?
Will there be any consequences if I choose the later?
thank you for assistance
December 22, 2021 at 05:03
Take both to the interview.
December 19, 2021 at 15:06
Hello I sent mon ds 260 on May 22 on november 10th i received DR does that mean my ds is processed
December 22, 2021 at 05:00
Yes
December 18, 2021 at 08:28
Dear Simon,
I had submitted my DS-260 back in July, documents in September (following your advice to not wait for the KCC email requesting those), my CN becomes current in January, and after my recent enquiry as to why I hadn’t heard from them about my interview date yet, KCC emailed me back confirming that they had received my application and the supporting documents and that there was no need to worry.
However, now that everything has changed with the document procedure removal,
a) – do you reckon the process is to become so swift that my interview will actually take place in January without any delay (with the case number being EU90xx)? Or could it still be postponed until February or spring even with the new order of things?
b) In this new scenario, do you think EU90xx is a risky CN?
Regards.
December 16, 2021 at 12:10
I am from Africa and my case Number 2022AF00020XXX is high case number?
Thanks
December 17, 2021 at 06:32
No
December 15, 2021 at 13:46
Hi Brit, I am DV2022AF5k, my case number was current for November and I had submtted DS260 in October as well as my documents.
But i have not received any notrification from KCC yet, my DS260 shows completed and currently at KCC.
please is my CN high? and do you think I have any chance of being scheduled any time soon?
December 17, 2021 at 06:20
Be patient.
December 14, 2021 at 19:54
Brit forgive me for the inconvenience.
When I filled in ds I confused my mom’s maiden name surname ie Q with C. how do you think should ds open or is it unnecessary?
December 17, 2021 at 06:17
No need to unlock for that.
December 14, 2021 at 16:27
Hello Brit, what is the best answer to give when the consular officer asks how many times one applied for the DV Lottery before winning?
December 17, 2021 at 06:17
The truth.
December 12, 2021 at 22:11
Hi. What are your thoughts on the chances of AF37k becoming current. FY2022. Thanks.
December 17, 2021 at 06:07
No predictions.
December 12, 2021 at 21:16
Hi Simon! DS260 still not submitted due to the fact I have CN EU28k and 2 derivatives (1 without the passport still). Do you think this is a high CN 28XXX for the EU region? Thank you!
December 17, 2021 at 06:07
Pretty high.
December 12, 2021 at 20:50
Hi Simon! I am a DV22 winner. Since I’m no longer required to send the documents prior to the interview, how am I supposed to provide them with a photo of my child who was born after the original application to to DV lottery? Should I just email it to KCC or they will ask for it separately?
December 17, 2021 at 06:06
You will provide that at interview.
December 12, 2021 at 18:26
Hi Simon, thanks for providing this detailed article on the update. My case no. is 2022AS00004xxx and I submitted my DS-260 on October 2nd. According to the latest Visa Bulletin, my case becomes current in January but I have still not received any communications whatsoever from KCC as yet. Now that I may not have to email my documents to KCC, please guide on the below. Thanks in advance!
1. Would my case no. be too high for Saudi Arabia?
2. How do I schedule my interview in January? On what portal / website?
3. When do I get my medicals done?
December 17, 2021 at 06:05
1. No
2. KCC will schedule your interview – but not in January.
3. Before the interview. Schedule that when you get the 2NL.
December 17, 2021 at 08:38
Thanks for your reply Simon. By when can I expect to get my 2NL? Any guidance would be helpful.
December 22, 2021 at 04:37
I don’t predict that.
December 12, 2021 at 13:08
My cn is 2022af24k
Have i a chance
December 17, 2021 at 06:03
Probably.
December 11, 2021 at 18:49
i have a question plz
I have a master’s degree in automation and industrial computing
and I put master in electrical engineering
does this cause a problem
December 17, 2021 at 05:58
No
December 11, 2021 at 15:20
Has the government appeal reserved 9095 visas
December 11, 2021 at 17:00
Yes
December 11, 2021 at 06:20
Dear Sir;
After this new decision, if I need to unlock my DS how much time it will be taken from KCC to unlock it to do my editing.
My case number AF 23K. If I opened it and did editing that will delay my case or I still have time till be current ?
December 11, 2021 at 16:56
If you need to unlock, do that.
December 11, 2021 at 06:02
Hi Brit,
1. My CN is AS7xxx, i am hoping to get current in Feb/Mar. Can I assume, I will be interviewed in Feb/Mar regardless wehther my DS260 is processed or not?
2. Let’s say term “received DS260” implied both “Received and Processed”, then what is a effect of DS-Submission date and CN? Do KCC give priority to process DS260 based on CN order or as usual DS-submission date.
December 11, 2021 at 16:55
1. Don’t assume.
2. Let’s wait and see.
December 10, 2021 at 23:57
Hi Simon,
OC19xx (New Zealand) here that was already DQ on October 13 so of course this news has me feeling unsettled.
I know you mentioned in your youtube Q&A that OC generally doesn’t hit its capacity, would you say there is still a reasonable chance of receiving the interview with my CN?
Also I’m just wondering, how would this new process work for people who had submitted a DS260 but then decided not to proceed further for example or people who get rejected at the interview stage based off documents? Would this then be a ‘wasted’ interview slot that could have been picked up at the DQ stage but now won’t be?
Thanks
Adam
December 11, 2021 at 16:54
My earlier statement already meant there was a reasonable chance.
Refusals and no shows cost an interview slot, but the visas are reclaimed and reallocated to other cases.
December 10, 2021 at 15:42
Dear Sir;
After this new decision, if I need to unlock my DS how much time it will be taken from KCC to unlock it to do my editing.
My case number AF 23K. If I opened it and did editing that will delay my case or I still have time till be current ?
December 10, 2021 at 15:30
Hi Mr. Simon,
1. Does this mean that we are not supposed to send the documents from now on?
2. What does it mean that high case numbers are affected by this act?
3. Would you mind giving your view on AS24K number – too high? (Of course I know in both processes (current and previous) high case numbers are affected. I am trying to figure out how this procedure affected the high CNs). Thank you.
December 10, 2021 at 16:54
1. Correct.
2. This change gives higher priority, and therefore more chance to lower case numbers. The change also means more cases can be scheduled. So it is more likely that highest case numbers won’t become current.
3. It’s quite high – and therefore somewhat at risk.
December 10, 2021 at 13:23
Hi Brit,I am DV2022 , DQ in Nov, THAT I AM READY TO BE SCHEDULED WHEN MY CASE BECOME READY,SHALL I SEND ANY REQUEST OR EMAIL TO EMBASSY ASK FOR INTERVIEW OR I SHOULD WAIT TILL GET THE INTERVIEW EMAIL FROM EMBASSY WHEN MY CASE BECOME READY ,REGARDS.
December 10, 2021 at 16:48
You wait to hear from them once your case number is current.
December 10, 2021 at 12:40
Hey sir, do you think AS12XXX from Nepal is high case for DV2022?
December 10, 2021 at 16:42
It must be one of the highest Nepal cases, yes.
December 10, 2021 at 17:04
So is there a hope for late 12xxx cases from Nepal for interview and processing as per your thoughts? Thanks
December 11, 2021 at 16:42
I don’t know.
December 10, 2021 at 06:00
Once again KCC and the immigration system in general show their incompetence and inefficiency without external contractors support ( that their manager cancelled to save money in summer 2020 leaving them without these jobs during a pandemic crisis.)
Also so unfair for the DV2020 and DV2021 winners who were sometimes stuck because not DQ.
Here’s my frustration in front of professional people acting for political reasons : No more excuses for these FLB.
I hope one day a judge will have the gut to admit that is not what the law asks them to do and will make these immigration services pay a heavy price for playing with people life and destiny.
December 10, 2021 at 07:05
Not sure what you think a Judge can say in terms of “punishing” them. Immigration is not a right, DV winners are told they are not guaranteed a visa, and there are no rules that require a minimum number of visas to be issued.
December 10, 2021 at 05:38
AS19XXX do you think this a high or Low?
December 10, 2021 at 06:55
Medium to high.
December 9, 2021 at 22:20
Hi Brit, Can you write the meaning of each abbreviation you put for us we are new in this program. Example. DQ stands for what? There are many which I get always lost in your text. Tks
December 10, 2021 at 06:53
Read the FAQ
December 9, 2021 at 21:55
Does that mean we are supposed to see “DQ” as we check our visa application status any moment from now?
December 9, 2021 at 22:10
It would just show ready
December 10, 2021 at 06:53
No
December 9, 2021 at 19:40
How does this impact the ones under AOS?
December 10, 2021 at 06:53
It doesn’t impact them.
December 9, 2021 at 18:28
Does this mean that they will not schedule interviews as per case number (It is how I am understanding this?) – the various booking websites have not been updated to accept Case Numbers that have submitted DS-260 forms, they are still stating “Case number not ready for appointment” – so am wondering on this one?
December 10, 2021 at 06:52
Case number order becomes more important. The not ready for appointment thing is normal – you just have to choose a different option.
December 9, 2021 at 18:24
Well explained and well articulate.Congratulations on that.I am wondering when will they send 2nl for those CN that are current already.
December 9, 2021 at 18:22
Hi,
Brit my case no# is 2022oc15xx….after the tier and the document procedure removed do u think my case has a chance to get interviewed….is my no# too high
Thanks
December 10, 2021 at 06:51
Maybe. Partly depends on embassies – and if you are in Sydney, there are problems there at the moment.
December 10, 2021 at 08:04
I am located at the fiji embassy….
December 10, 2021 at 19:21
Do I have a chance…..
December 9, 2021 at 18:10
it is so unfair towards DV2020/21 people. They just screwed
December 10, 2021 at 06:23
Why?
December 9, 2021 at 18:09
Britsimons please can you Tell us if in our SA región 28XX is a High number? ????
December 10, 2021 at 06:22
Somewhat high, yes.
December 9, 2021 at 17:41
Will this cover DV2020 Gomez class action cases that are required to issue the rest of visas within FY2022 as this new procedure is announced and applied before they will be handling DV2020 next year? That would be a good chance for Type 5 as their DS-260 is processed but not yet DQ.
December 10, 2021 at 06:22
This procedure applies to DV2022 at this time.