DV lottery magic show
Everyone loves a magic show and US Department of State are performing a really incredible magic trick right now. More on that later…
So – 24 hours on from my post last night where I explained why I thought the people with session timed out were possibly winners. After these 24 hours I am MORE confident that is the case. Why?
- We have seen no winners at all. Anywhere. None. That is not possible.
- The session timed out cases continue to be 100% consistent (and if you have a not selected case also you can alternate between working and session timed out). This rules out PC issues, browser issues, network, server load or any other random glitch. C O N S I S T E N T. In IT a consistent bug is the easiest type to identify and track down.
- There are some organizations who check cases on behalf of hundreds or thousands of people. They are seeing about 1 in 100 cases with the consistent session timed out behavior. And guess what your average chance of being selected is… go on guess! Well it is about 1 in 100. Really.
- We have two behaviors possible (not selected or selected) and apart from people hitting server load times we have two distinct behaviors identified. Not selected cases and session timed out. So – if the not selected are the not selected once… what could the other ones be??
- As I mentioned in an update to my post from yesterday there is an obvious logic to what they would do with the programming. This fits beautifully into that logic.
So as time goes on I am more and more convinced. Really – I am very cautious about giving false hope, but this just seems so obvious!
Ok so what is the magic show?
Well being a government organization US DoS are slow to react and well, sometimes just slow. So they eventually posted this in their FB site.
Basically they are saying they can see that 12000 selectees have logged in and seen they are winners. So US DoS then performed a superb bit of magic and made those 12000 selectees all vanish. Gone. Because no one has produced a single winner. Not one. Nice trick US DoS!
Obviously hundreds of people are posting information about the session timed out – and this was my reply to them hoping this would be passed to their IT team.
So – all we can do is wait. Hopefully someone working for USDoS will be a little smart and read some of the comments – and when they do – we should get a fix.
This does not need a re-draw – just a fix to the notification aspect of their system.
Fingers crossed for a fix tomorrow.
Oh and if US DoS IT gurus are reading this – call me – I can explain your screwup to you…
May 7, 2015 at 07:02
I’m really confused. what’s happening in between? Is there any problem or every thing’s is just normal ?
Though i’m not selected for further process but i have hope for next year lottery .
In the mean time thank you dear Birt for all your help and passion to other people.
May 7, 2015 at 07:15
Really I feel there is something wrong,even VB for June on the VB page have not changed for ” coming soon ” as usual..today is may 7..and there is no ” coming soon “..!!
May 7, 2015 at 07:24
The VB is unrelated
May 7, 2015 at 07:36
Thanks, you are really helpful. cant wait to see real result of my session timed out error
May 7, 2015 at 07:42
Yes Sir..I know is unrelated,,but I mean maybe they are busy or something..anyway..still they have enough time up to May 15 to release June VB
May 7, 2015 at 14:49
Yep – busy trying to fix the ESC site!
May 7, 2015 at 08:08
Now i think system is not slow so is it means that people who see not selected it is final ny now?!
May 7, 2015 at 14:50
I believe so
May 7, 2015 at 08:12
It is easier to know that you are not selected than you are selected..This is how best of KCC…My eggs are on last year dv with my CN AF50xxxx..Hope it will go current
May 7, 2015 at 14:50
You will be fine…
May 7, 2015 at 08:42
The issue is so obvious and yet they’re either ignoring it or haven’t recognized it yet which seems unlikely.So why can’t they just accept that there’s a glitch?
May 7, 2015 at 14:51
Their database is tracking the applicant logins – so they think 12000 people have seen the 1NL…
May 7, 2015 at 09:13
Hope it will come my turn next year God bless America
May 7, 2015 at 14:51
May 7, 2015 at 11:12
Hi Simon, I just want to share a link of winner from Morocco I found in another site. I don’t know if their proof is legit or not. Here is the link :
May 7, 2015 at 14:08
That is not real. Pick up any smart phone. Install bar scanner software. Scan the barcode and it comes up with 2015AF00078027.
May 7, 2015 at 14:38
I had a doubt because of the 4 zeros before the number, it’s usually just 3 zeros but then I thought that maybe because it’s a small number of 4 digits.
Anyway, I think it’s a 2015 selectee that is frustrated with their high CN and wished to be selected in the 2016 DV with a very low case number !!
May 7, 2015 at 16:17
that’s quite mean. As of now, I still get “session timed out” for me whereas the status of my relatives return “not selected” that is 1 out of the 7 cases I have.
May 7, 2015 at 19:16
Good luck then!
May 7, 2015 at 11:14
so how do explain than when i use my confimation number of 2015XXXXXX it show me that i have been selected for further process????
May 7, 2015 at 12:34
last year they announced that everybody should check their status again and this was after a week.Some who had seen the notorious “has not been selected” message found out that they had actually won this time.
This could apply to you too only too late now.
May 8, 2015 at 02:07
that was a different issue….
May 7, 2015 at 12:43
May 7, 2015 at 13:20
May 7, 2015 at 11:21
Hi Mr Brits, Thank you very much for your articles they are very helpful, but your assumption has no actual real proof whatsoever, Even if it was true and the people that have “Session Timed Out” are the winners, the vast majority of people on forums and Facebook pages say that they received the message “Has Not Been Selected”, which is very weird and unusual compared to the other years .
Regardless thank you again for the amazing work you’re doing
May 8, 2015 at 02:12
Well as we now know my theory was 100% right.
May 7, 2015 at 11:54
Bad year DV 2016 we don’t have luck
May 7, 2015 at 12:01
Is there any chance that a not-selected one might actually be selected?
May 7, 2015 at 12:08
Simon I’ve called the Kentaki Post ( dv lottery post ) by phone
that’s what they said to me
Session Timed meens nothing , it’s just a msg , there’s a lot of people trying to get to the website ,that’s why some of them can’t find an anwers , just try again until there is an answer
I told her nobody won but she said
There are Winners confirmed sir
Session timed out Maybe doesn’t meen u are winner Simon …. ?
May 7, 2015 at 12:12
They must chose 120,000 winner across the world .. why kcc tell that only 55000 will be selectee
May 7, 2015 at 12:28
Re-submission of ds 260 form keep saying section time out
May 7, 2015 at 13:51
It doesnt make any sens what the US DoS saying ?? Now after 48 Hrs came up with this non sens explanation about their screwup ? Comon , we are not stupid to beleive that !!! We know there is something goes worng and somebody afriad to lose his/her job ? it’s obvious that there is no winners so far not like every year?. Is there a global agreement between the winners to keep it secret ?? I wasnt sure about the ” session timed out” which I have seen it since the second one until this moment but after the US DoS update statment which ” full of non sens ” I’m pretty sure that who ever got constant “session timed out” is a winner .
May 7, 2015 at 19:20
May 7, 2015 at 14:55
How are you, man?
I’m from Iran and we registered for this.
I have a question.
How many days should we wait for the real results?
Because I have seen “Session Time Out” for 5 times before result page.
May 7, 2015 at 19:12
I don’t know – wait a few more days….
May 7, 2015 at 16:01
This is what shows DV2015 now:
Approximately 125,000 individuals were registered for further processing. Therefore, it is very important that you carefully follow instructions to increase your chances of possible visa issuance. The instructions are located on the Department of State website at http://www.dvselectee.state.gov. All DV-2016 applicants must use the online DS-260 Immigrant Visa and Alien Registration Application. Paper forms will not be accepted.
I was selected in DV2015, but you can see that it says DV-2016. Everything else is correct. I would say that their systems are totally messed up.
May 7, 2015 at 16:59
I know it’s unrelated, but we passed a week in May and the Bulletin is not on coming soon yet, why do you think that it? KCC is slow on everything, and it just keeps getting worse every month.
May 7, 2015 at 19:17
Don’t worry – they have until the 15th to issue the VB.
May 7, 2015 at 18:57
STO all time:(((
May 7, 2015 at 19:23
Ever since noon the other day I’ve been getting the STO and just now it loaded – I was selected.
I advice everyone with a STO to check right now. I am 2016EU00022353
@Simon – your blog got me through some very tough hours – thank you, cheers!
PS I dont mind sharing a screenshot if you want to check it
May 8, 2015 at 02:04
seeing lots of them now – so no need for the jpg./ Congratulations!
May 7, 2015 at 19:27
*IMPORTANT: I was one of those with “session timed out” error. I kept checking every 30 mins. In the last few minutes this has been fixed and I can now see the selectee letter.
Thanks BritSimon to keep us up to date :))))))
May 8, 2015 at 02:04
May 8, 2015 at 07:10
Is not there any news we us delighted owners dv2015 Will there be a change for the benefit of Africa Thanks for all
May 8, 2015 at 07:25
no news for DV2015
May 8, 2015 at 07:42
May 8, 2015 at 12:30
so what was the screwup
May 8, 2015 at 14:45
Just as my theory explained.
May 12, 2015 at 17:59
Hello. My fiancé has been allocated the visa number around 12,000. He is Irish. When do you expect he should have his interview? Is this a low number for Europe? We were planning getting married next year but are wondering now whether to bring it forward if it means it will be easier for me to get a green card too. I’m Scottish so I can’t apply for a green card myself. Thanks. Any advice would be welcome.
May 12, 2015 at 19:37
Yes it is a good number. Marry him asap, then submit the DS260 as a couple (or unlock the form). REad this for more info
May 12, 2015 at 22:24
Thanks. When do you think we would have the interview if our number is around 12,000?
May 13, 2015 at 03:42
You have to include the YEar and Region – like 2015AF12XXX
May 13, 2015 at 08:30
It Is 2016EU12100
May 13, 2015 at 08:37
I am lively interested as well I got 2016EU16XXX. You think I’ll have the interview at all? when? I think for 2015EU16XXX got current around Feb 2015 you think for 2016 will be the same?
May 13, 2015 at 20:40
Perhaps about the same – maybe a bit later…
May 12, 2015 at 18:01
Sorry I didn’t make it clear that this is for DV2016
June 3, 2015 at 01:38
I was selected for the dv 2016 and my case number is 2016AF000236XX. Can u pls give me an idea when i’ll be current for interview?
June 3, 2015 at 01:51
June 3, 2015 at 07:20
But is my CN: 2016AF000236XX really safe because i just submitted my ds260 today June 3, 2015?
June 3, 2015 at 07:23
June 3, 2015 at 19:58
Thanks very much Brit. I really appreciate your blog because it is very informative. Thank again for your hard work…. MAY GOD RICHLY BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
June 3, 2015 at 20:59
June 4, 2015 at 10:47
I have submitted my DS260 with CN 2016AF000236XXX but my 2011 High School WEAC certificate got missing some time ago but i do have the online hard-copy of the result for verification on the WEAC website: http://results.liberiawaec.org/ . I have contacted WEAC Office but they told me that they are not doing reprinting of WEAC certificates. Do think this will affect my case? Please advice me what to do.
June 4, 2015 at 12:55
CN 2016AF000236XX not CN 2016AF000236XXX
June 5, 2015 at 04:51
If WAEC are not reprinting, it is because they allow verification some other way – I suggest you check how that works. I don’t know the specifics.
January 8, 2016 at 07:40
Much appreciate your efforts.
1. Can the DS260 submission to KCC jeopardize the embassy interview even with lower CN?
2. What is the estimated expiry time for VB for a given DV year?
3. do i have to notify country us embassy after KCC has scheduled interview appointment?
January 8, 2016 at 14:28
1. Even if you are case number 1, you will not get an interview until your DS260 is processed.
2. I have no idea what you are asking.
May 3, 2016 at 20:19
I get session timed out or even nothing, I am not even able to check my status and enter my confirmation number. Is that normal?
May 3, 2016 at 20:27
The servers are busy. Try again in a couple of hours and be sure to start a new browser session each time….
May 19, 2016 at 15:18
Please can u check ma status for me have been trying to check wit diffrnt browsers BT to no avail.
***EDITED details OUT****
May 19, 2016 at 15:31
Another one that works first time.
May 20, 2016 at 07:39
Plss I Dnt undastnd it very well u said another one DAT works first time..plss can u explain for me.
May 20, 2016 at 14:18
People tell me they can’t check their results but all it is that they don’t follow instructions. So it works first time when I use their details.