OK – as I am writing this it is midnight here in California, 3am on the East coast of USA. That means the DV2016 results have been available for 15 hours. So far, I have not seen a single verified “selected” case. SomeΒ people have claimed success, but so far all the cases seem to be hoaxes.
SoΒ – it is feeling like something is amiss. We might be seeing another technical problem. It wouldn’t be the first in recent years.
In 2012 the selection program had some testing code left switched on that meant all the winners selected were from the first couple of days of entries.Β People were notified they were winner, and others were told they were not. The bug was identified, the results were cancelled and the draw was redone.
In DV2015 there was a glitch where some people saw a not selected message by mistake when they were actually winners. This was resolved within a day or so and some people haveΒ been contactedΒ by email to suggest they checked the result again – whereupon they found they were winners.
So how about this year?
There seems to be two different cases.
1. In one case the entry is checked and almost instantly the system returns “not selected”.
2. In the other case the entry is checked and after a slightly longer period (1 to 2 seconds) the system returns a message saying “Session Timed out” as shown below:-
There is a consistency of this second message – some cases always get it whilst the not selected cases are just as reliable. Some people are getting messages through incorrect data input, but that is not what I am referring to.
The regularity and the consistency of the session timed out message is making me feel these cases are somehow different to the not selected – and since that can only mean the opposite of not selected, I am speculating that these cases may in fact be winners.Β So – I am saying the cases that return “not selected are indeed not selected, but those that go straight to session timed out might be winners.
I hate speculating BUT people may jump to various conclusions and I would rather get an explanation out to my readers, as opposed to no information.
I have details for three cases like this at the moment. I am hopeful that DoS will resolve whatever issue they are having and I have my fingers crossed for those that may be about to get some good news.
UPDATE: People have mentioned they can see the session timed out message after seeing the not selected message. You can cause the session timed out error. Multiple windows, clicking back and yes – actually letting the session time out.
However, what we are talking about is someone whoΒ consistentlyΒ enters the information and gets the session timed out error – and in my tests I can alternate between not selected cases and “interesting” cases with 100% predictability. So – that rules out network issues, browser issues, server load and so on. There is something “different” about the 3 interesting cases I have.
If this is true it is because of a programming glitch. I’m a programmer. The programming logic would go like this:-
Check the login data against a database.
Is the case selected?
IfΒ NoΒ – easy – just put up the standard not selected message that 99% of people see.
IfΒ YesΒ – the system has to go and retrieve the 1NL which is a prepared letter (a “report” in IT terms).
The yes logic means an extra step would have to be made. That would require access to the letter image, or at least the data that is filled into a form (but I believe it is an image based on previous years 1NLs).
THat theory would suggest that “not selected” cases are indeed not selected – but it should be remembered that last year the glitch meant that some were told they were not selected when they were in fact selected. So – everyone should check again once this is resolved…
Hope that explains why the IT geeks are leaning a certain way… could be wrong of course – just an educated guess.
DV2016 results mystery update
May 6, 2015 at 07:19
Hi Britsimon!
Awesome, good job once again. It does feel something ‘is up’.
I just wanted to share what happened with the 4 cases I checked. 3 of them immediately jumped to ‘not selected’, but 1 of them first got the session timed out message after a few seconds (so definitely not a ‘normal’ time out). When I tried again later it did say the entry wasn’t selected.
If you are interested I don’t mind sharing the details of the 4 cases.
May 6, 2015 at 16:28
I had the same problem.
October 20, 2015 at 11:04
Hello, If a person have submitted multiple entries with its name, while checking with its confirmation number what there will be written??? It will be written “YOU are Not selected”? or “You are disqualified”?
Thanks in advance!
October 20, 2015 at 13:55
Not selected.
May 4, 2016 at 08:34
Hi I got session times out three times then I got SESSION CANCELLED and when in checked it again it showed Not selected … What’s SESSION CANCELLED ?
May 4, 2016 at 16:37
https://britsimonsays.com/dv2017-checking-results-tips-faqs/
May 13, 2016 at 10:54
Hi sir I hav problem dat says session out till which date I can chek today may 12 I tried it on may 5 from chrome can I chek results frm different browsers what should I do plz suggest me
May 13, 2016 at 12:17
The system is working., The problem is something you are doing wrong.
https://britsimonsays.com/dv2017-checking-results-tips-faqs/
May 6, 2015 at 07:56
Hi,
I think it’s just a technical problem and it will be resolved, so people don’t freak out and check out after a day or two.
May 6, 2015 at 09:21
I know a couple of people (Iranians) who claimed they saw their selection message when logged in.
May 6, 2015 at 12:59
Till now, nobody from Iran announced their selection. Just a few person kidding.
May 6, 2015 at 17:07
Thanks
May 6, 2015 at 15:34
Yep – there have been similar reports – but none come up with a screenshot of the 1NL (you have been selected) letter
May 6, 2015 at 09:34
Server busy and inmediately has not been selected. (Spain)
May 6, 2015 at 15:35
Then that is not selected. Lo siento.
May 6, 2015 at 12:13
I have been experiencing the ‘session timed out’ for the 45th time in a row.. i’m just curious to see how it went for me. Good luck to everyone
May 6, 2015 at 17:01
there is an update on the post toward the bottom – no fix yet.
May 6, 2015 at 12:19
I have same proplem. My brother and I applyied for the DV in the same day , he got not selected and I every time i check give me “Session Timed out” . I have tried another browser and still the same . I hope that what you are saying about these technical issues is the true about this issue and hopefully to be a winner . I have applied 4 time in the last 4 years but no luck I hope this time luck be on my side ” fingers crossed” guys ,
May 6, 2015 at 17:01
Fingers crossed.
May 6, 2015 at 12:58
The Iranians’ claim hasn’t been verified.
Some just “claim” to have won, without any proof.
To me it just seems like a hoax.
May 6, 2015 at 17:07
Yup
May 6, 2015 at 13:02
I have the same error message (session timed out) every time i check my entry. Im tryring since yesterday and every 5/10 minute but no way. the same error session timed out
May 6, 2015 at 17:08
OK – then I guess you are hoping I am correct!!!
May 6, 2015 at 18:46
I hope so π
May 6, 2015 at 14:19
Hi BritSimon, my whole time I get session timed out, and checked in different browsers
May 6, 2015 at 15:34
Yep – the cases I am checking are consistent. Just be sure you have only one session going (close additional browser windows). If you do that and see the session timed out instantly, then you are in my “interesting” category. π
May 6, 2015 at 16:05
Me too. checked in diferent browsers and diferent PCs, the result is the same (session timed out )
May 6, 2015 at 17:15
Good luck!
May 6, 2015 at 14:34
Hi Brit, I had a session timed out, then like Melissa i checked againβ¦.and is immediately went to not selected?
May 6, 2015 at 15:32
Then that is a real not selected message. π
May 6, 2015 at 14:35
Thank u for u inspiring post . I get the same message and I’d love to keep updating what happens with me on this page .
May 6, 2015 at 17:09
I will post again when I know more
May 6, 2015 at 14:47
same here, had session timed out a few times of both my hubby’s and my entries, then checked again and said not selected π
May 6, 2015 at 17:09
Timeouts due to busy servers are not the same. If you now check and see not selected, I think that means not selected but check again in a few days to be sure.
May 6, 2015 at 15:02
Actually thats exactly what happened to me.. first time out and then not selected
May 6, 2015 at 17:10
Timeouts due to busy servers are not the same. If you now check and see not selected, I think that means not selected but check again in a few days to be sure.
May 6, 2015 at 15:40
As usual, I applied for 100 friends and none got selected. I have called a few other friends who applied elsewhere, no success. The only difference I see for one case is “session timed out” any time I check
May 6, 2015 at 17:13
Yup – 1 in 100. Guess what the average winning rate is…
1 in 100.
May 6, 2015 at 15:47
Getting the same ‘Session timed out’. Russia
May 6, 2015 at 17:13
Good luck
May 7, 2015 at 17:08
Good luck man u might be the winner
May 7, 2015 at 19:17
π
May 6, 2015 at 15:48
I do hope your theory is right, I checked my status on 5 different browsers and 3 different laptops and I get either ‘Session timed out’ or ‘Entrant Status Check is currently experiencing technical difficulties. We apologize for any inconvenience. Please check back later.’ So i’m checking every 3 hours, fingers crossed π
May 6, 2015 at 17:14
Good luck!
May 6, 2015 at 15:53
Britsimon hi do you have “not selected” message now ?
May 6, 2015 at 17:15
I have a Green Card – but I have about 10 cases I am checking. 3 cases all keep coming back session timed out – whilst the others say not selected.
May 7, 2015 at 01:47
3 out of 10 is quite remarkable considering the 1% likelihood. I do get a consistent “session timed out” every time I check, but I see tons of people claiming the same.
May 7, 2015 at 02:26
No, these 10 were not random. once I suspected the issue I appealed for people to give me the session timed out cases. So – I am not matching the 1% to my results – but rather the results of others….
May 6, 2015 at 15:53
My friend’s case that I am checking are consistent with session time out message. I checked out more than 50 times from last night. Even when I fill it the related section in forgotten case number, it immediately goes to the page which needs confirmation number and after that session time out. After several times trying I haven’t seen has not been selected message for this case. Hope she be winner.I also think she is selected.
May 6, 2015 at 16:00
OMG, please please please let your assumption be true. I have checked 5 times now since last night, and I always get the Session Timed Out. I’m not sure what the hell is going on, but I rather your assumption is right man!
May 6, 2015 at 17:15
Good luck!!
May 6, 2015 at 16:11
Iis there any chance that they may re do draw??
May 6, 2015 at 17:17
I don’t think so. The redraw in 2012 was because the draw itself was inaccurate. This time – the only error we are assuming is the notification…. so no need for a redraw.
May 6, 2015 at 16:27
has been not selected
May 6, 2015 at 17:17
Try again in October…
May 6, 2015 at 16:49
I called KCC, they said there winners but with inconfident voice tone ))
May 6, 2015 at 17:18
Of course there are winners – but not one has come forward yet with a winners letter – 25 hours after the results. That is bizarre.
May 6, 2015 at 16:53
I’m in the same case, I’ve been trying since yesterday, but I only get the screen Session Timed out. I hope this could be fixed soon, at least clarified.
May 6, 2015 at 17:19
Good luck!
May 8, 2015 at 16:13
Hi BritSimon! I am from Uzbekistan when I cheked 1 time its been Session timed out after it when I cheked some more times HAS NOT BEEN CELECTED but yestarday and today always have SESSION TIMED OUT what is mean? And my wife ‘s 1 chek and until this time the same SESSION TIMED OUT only 1 time SESSION TIMED CANCELLED. what is meaning than you so much for answer! And good luck!
May 8, 2015 at 20:39
THat means not selected. You can cause session timed out errors in other ways, but not selected means not selected.
May 6, 2015 at 16:55
I am from Sudan (Africa) and i keep seeing the “Session timed out” message ,I hope it means i won the lottery because it means soooo much to me .
May 6, 2015 at 17:19
Good luck!
May 6, 2015 at 17:09
getting the session timed out error as well.
Tried all day long and the same message appears… I hope it means the winner
May 6, 2015 at 17:12
Good luck!
May 6, 2015 at 17:47
Any confirmed selected messages yet? I checked yesterday and I got “Entry has not been selected” message. After I see this post I tried couple of times today and system immediately replies back with the same message. Should I keep my hope alive?
May 6, 2015 at 18:18
No selected confirmed cases that I have heard of yet.
If you see the not selected that might well be accurate – but check again in a few days.
May 6, 2015 at 18:37
Thank you very much Simon. I’m a computer engineer myself, probably what you are assuming is right. Selected entries gets “session timeout” error. Mine is just an hope π
May 6, 2015 at 20:20
It seems logical. DoS are denying there is a problem and that thousands have confirmed their entries. But of course they are just registering that someone logged in – they don’t seem to realize that people don’t get to see a confirmation letter. Amazing.
May 6, 2015 at 20:35
Do you think they know by now? Anything we can do?
May 6, 2015 at 20:42
They seem to be in denial, although there is obviously a lag between what the average KCC worker knows and what their IT department would know. I hope they know about it!
May 6, 2015 at 17:51
I had 3 accounts of friends
When i saw the results yesterday they both has been not selected
But me i got from the first try (session timed out ) until now doesn’t change
So that meens that im selected
I will not believe until i see the reel text
Help me plz
May 6, 2015 at 18:24
yep – keep checking – hopefully they will fix soon.
May 6, 2015 at 19:10
what about this case: I had not selected twice, then session timed out, then not selected till now
May 6, 2015 at 20:22
I think that means not selected
May 6, 2015 at 18:34
I played for 17 ppeople. 15 of them have returned the not selected result. Two of them keep coming with either session time out or technical errors. I really hope your theory is right. I have checked more than 50 times for those two with no success, only error messages. Let’s hope we are in luck with those two.
May 6, 2015 at 20:18
Good luck!
May 6, 2015 at 18:35
HI
i have try to check out my status in dv lottery 2016,when i write my confirmation number it says :
INVALID CONFIRM NUMBER.
BUT I PRETTY SURE THAT I DO EVERY THING RIGHT.
is it usual cause today is first day?
my wife confirmation number does not have this problem and we could check it out.
May 6, 2015 at 20:19
Try the forgot confirmation number link
May 6, 2015 at 18:50
I have the same problem i try in different browser and computers the result is session timeout. but my wife result is not selected.
I am from Iraq
May 6, 2015 at 20:22
So – you can see what I mean…. different cases between you and your wife. Same PC, same network, same website, same servers… but a consistent different reaction. One NOT selected, the other….
May 6, 2015 at 18:55
same thing is happening to my brother’s case. anytime I check it out, it says “session timed out” I have my fingers crossed.
May 6, 2015 at 20:22
Keep them crossed.
May 6, 2015 at 19:33
My wife and cousin are getting “entry not selected message” but I am getting “session timed out”. We have been checking my entry for last 14 hours. Like clockwork we keep getting “session timed out” message.
We are really hoping I was selected. Can’t wait to visit Silicon Valley π
May 6, 2015 at 20:23
I think you may get your chance. Look me up when you get here! π
May 6, 2015 at 19:54
I’ve tried countless times: on two laptops, two smartphones, three wifi connections, and two browsers. I get an immediate ‘session timed out’ message. No pause, or second or two before it pops up, like you described. Dying to know when this will be resolved…
May 6, 2015 at 20:18
Yup. A nervous time. Better to see session timed out than not selected though!
May 6, 2015 at 20:40
so i`m getting a session timed out for one case,every time and a not selected on the other case i`m checking. i sure hope your speculations are correct.
May 6, 2015 at 20:43
Yep – me too! Good luck!
May 6, 2015 at 21:16
Same case here, I’ve been getting the “session timed out.” message from the beginning.
May 6, 2015 at 22:53
π patience….
May 6, 2015 at 21:18
I had a phone call from america and they check my details about me and my familly to be true information and the woman said that i have abiblity and i must check the site in may and now i haven’t been selecteeed! how come?
May 6, 2015 at 22:53
Only 1 person in 100 gets selected.
May 6, 2015 at 21:31
the same problem in algeria
May 6, 2015 at 22:54
Yup – everywhere….
May 6, 2015 at 22:23
Bad programmers? Bad production configurations? Sure, developers do not make the difference between a TimeOutException and any other one.
Congratulation for those who have the persistent “Session timed out”. For the other, rendezvous with me for the DV-2017 application submission period in 6 six month.
May 6, 2015 at 22:54
π
May 6, 2015 at 22:30
Here’s what I found on FB:
Green Card DV Lottery Instructions
2 hrs Β·
.
It seems there is a technical problem and the engineers from KCC are working hard to fix the issue… there is a problem with showing the winning page to the DV-2016 winners… the rumours are saying that the winners are the ones who are seeing the message “Session timed out”… there is nothing official!! just keep on checking this FB page and we will post here any official message from KCC! Good luck to everybody! There is still a chance for everyone who has applied to DV-2016…
I’m not sure though if the source could be trusted.
May 6, 2015 at 22:55
Well the engineers are not from KCC – but yeah hopefully they are finally getting the message…
May 6, 2015 at 22:32
I have office for applying for DV so we work in thousands—today we start searching the entries and some of them are with timed out –I know when the server is timed out—I am sure this timed out are winners because this happening at the winning averge(Sudan)
May 6, 2015 at 22:57
Yep – that is part of the evidence – the winning averages coincide with the real session timed out instances. I hope you are a “good” agent!
May 6, 2015 at 22:43
i`m always getting a session timed out i have 4 friends found ‘has not been selected’ except me ! so is there any chance !? i m from morocco
May 6, 2015 at 22:57
Yep – session timed out is what you want at the moment!
May 6, 2015 at 22:51
50+ attempts at retrieving status over the last 36 hours over 4 separate machines and 2 operating systems all without fail returning a session timed out response. Confirmation number verified with the forgot number button same thing. Was getting really disheartened as there is no news about anyone else having issues till I found this blog! Now I have recrossed fires, toes, arms, legs – even braided hair if it will hep lol – and just going to have to wait it out. So thank you BritSimon and please keep us posted
May 6, 2015 at 22:58
Yeah USDos and KCC have not been helpful, but glad you found your way here. Right now, if I were a DV2016 entrant I would be very happy to be seeing a session timed out….
May 6, 2015 at 23:04
I can see the “session timed out” message after seeing the not selected message by directly refreshing the page. Does it happen that way for anyone else?
May 6, 2015 at 23:27
No – in your case you are causing the session timed out yourself. The not selected message is accurate in your case. π
May 6, 2015 at 23:36
Yes, logic, POST data are submitted once again with same tokens.
May 7, 2015 at 16:58
yoiu show that you are a real web programer
May 7, 2015 at 19:17
Not web stuff – but yeah IT programmer.
May 6, 2015 at 23:14
Wish All the luck for all
May 7, 2015 at 00:15
This results are not accurate weather i see timeout or not selected. Everyone confuse with the result in my country
May 7, 2015 at 00:19
Nobody in my country have hear of someone winner..so I believed there is something wrong somewhere.. We need quick resolving on this.. From Liberia
May 7, 2015 at 00:28
Instant session timed out
May 7, 2015 at 01:17
π
May 7, 2015 at 01:07
same here in Egypt no win it
May 7, 2015 at 02:28
any news about session timed out??
May 7, 2015 at 05:15
No news yet….
May 7, 2015 at 04:24
I easly checked over 100 times including different devices, different browsers even I asked my friend in different country. I cleared cookies and cache too. Always this message “session timed out” which comes immediately…
May 7, 2015 at 05:15
Good luck!