I have thousands of people reading my blog. I try to warn people what to expect in the visa bulletins – but still people seem surprised when the Visa Bulletin goes slow and I get flooded with people panicking with perfectly safe case numbers. I even get people asking “am I safe” with case numbers already current!
I have explained this before. I posted a few days ago explaining why the VB pace would be slow, but unless I am REALLY specific, the message gets lost. So – let me try and illustrate why the visa bulletin pace is slow.
The reason is the backlog. What does that mean? Well – not everyone submitted their DS260 as soon as they found they were winners. People tend to sit on these things – sometimes for months. It’s a once in a lifetime opportunity, and then people wait MONTHS to submit the forms (sometimes for good reason I’m sure)! So – what does that mean. Well – we know it has been taking about 3 months on average to process the forms. So if someone went current in October but only submitted their forms in August, their processing would have meant they could not have been scheduled until November or December (for January or February interviews. That case would have been part of the backlog – meaning a case already current, but scheduled late because of delayed submission.
I posted about this a few days ago explaining this backlog would be a reason for slow VB progress. Let’s take AF region as an example.  As I mentioned in that post, the current response rate for cases up to 17200 (the AF number last month) was just under 38%. Only 38% of the cases under 17200 (adjusted for Ethiopia) has been scheduled. I expect by the end of the year the full response rate to be about the same as DV2015 – which reached 61%. The difference of 23% will close over the next few months.
So – let’s put some numbers on it. Let’s assume the response rate will reach the 61% in a reducing curve. Something like 7% this month, 5% next month, then 4% the month after and so on. So – the 38% would “mature” over time to 61%.
Why does that affect VB progress?
Well KCC have to decide how many interviews can be scheduled in any given month. Let’s assume they wanted 1250 to 1300 interviews (we’ll be able to confirm that number in a couple of weeks when the 2NLs go out).
Under 17200 there are 12618 cases. 7% of those cases would have been ready already (according to my assumption) but the DS260s were not processed in time for last month. So – that means the 7% backlog cases would produce 883 cases ready for interview. That is 883 of the 12500/1300. KCC would then calculate how many numbers to increase the VB by for the month of March. They would have needed a further 350/400 cases at a new response rate of 45% (38% plus 7% – just a guess right now). The difference between  17200 and 18700 was 883 cases – and 45% of those would have yielded 384 cases ready for interview. That would have meant a total number of interviews of 1267 – which represents about 2500 people.
That is roughly what happened – but I will know for sure with the 2NL data in the CEAC file later this month.
I hope that explains things for people…
April 27, 2019 at 00:06
Hi, I won 2019 dv and I sent my Ds-260 form in September. My case number is in 15500 but I haven’t received letter of appointment yet
April 27, 2019 at 03:42
Have you sent your documents to KCC – if so – when?
May 29, 2018 at 05:25
2018EU00029044 this is my case number does anyone know when will be my visa avalable?
thanks
May 29, 2018 at 15:55
No – wait and see.
August 8, 2018 at 18:32
dv 2018 has Finished…why you told wait and see ???
August 8, 2018 at 19:00
Because I wrote that in May as you can clearly see. Please use some common sense.
September 8, 2016 at 07:47
My file is f2A n my priority date is 13 feb 2015…i got 60 days letter in january…but after that i dint get any mail for interview…so according to you how long it is going to take for scheduling interview…my file is from india
September 8, 2016 at 08:23
I don’t advise on non DV cases
September 4, 2016 at 03:24
Why Vb dates are not forwarding from April 16
September 4, 2016 at 14:59
I don’t understand your question.
January 27, 2016 at 22:54
bow! simon,
that think you to next visa bulletin,is probab arrived to AF22000?
January 27, 2016 at 18:33
Dear,
My case no 2016AS56xx ,and I need to make necessary change on DS260 which is the location of my interview.Do I still have a time to do that ,and will this delay my interview.
Thank you in a advance.
January 27, 2016 at 18:37
You still have time. Unlock your form, change your address, and resubmit. Then email KCC asking them to change your interview location based on the new address.
January 26, 2016 at 17:22
Excuse me but i am confuse my case numéro is af 44440 i have an chances?
January 26, 2016 at 18:07
Yes. You just have to wait some months….
January 26, 2016 at 21:41
Thank y ou brit
January 25, 2016 at 09:00
Hello brit i submitted ds260 in november when should i expect my interview . Tanx alot
January 25, 2016 at 17:33
It depends on your case number and submission date.
January 25, 2016 at 18:12
Tanx
January 12, 2016 at 18:09
dear simon my case n is af48000 what is your opinion about the next visas bulletin
January 12, 2016 at 18:21
I haven’t studied it yet. Patience.
By the way – you won’t be current for several months yet.
January 12, 2016 at 18:32
thanks simon .i hope they reach my number before the end
January 12, 2016 at 17:41
Hi sir ,i want to know , Ap start when the case number is current or any time ?and next question while submitting, ds-260 form my permant address was one village .which is all in my certifiacte and document .know we are shifting to another village solding all properties but we haven’t took the legal migration card from VDC. Now we are living in next village where we havent registered in VDC of new village.Both VDC are in same district . In such condition does this matter affect in AP or not. Or do i need unluck and change the address
January 12, 2016 at 18:13
AP starts at the interview – but not for all cases.
Update your address if you are not yet current.
January 11, 2016 at 16:59
Dear Simon;
My CN is EU20XXX. I will be current in march so i suppose i have to be expecting my 2NL in 2 weeks. However when i check my DS 260 form status, it says at KCC. Does that mean my form has not been processed yet? The only concern i have is that i accidently added a spause on my 260 which i don’t have. I have not started to fill in spause form, just left it blank while submitting my own.
When i asked it to kcc they replied: “KCC cannot remove a DS-260. If you created an extra DS-260, then you should be able to leave it in the summary without signing or submitting it to KCC.”
But at the main page it says you have to fill in all forms before KCC can process your case.So will KCC process my form? Shall i just wait or worry? :/
January 11, 2016 at 21:13
KCC have already advised you. What more can I add?
January 11, 2016 at 12:21
Hi Simon,
1. Do you think Ethiopia is lifted up to the rest of AF and keep the same number hereafter to go current/appear in the next VB?
2. Should one expect about 4000 increase and arrive at 22,700 in the next VB for that of AF region?
3. Any significant change you expect this year for the DV winners ? Just your suggestion?
Thanks!
January 11, 2016 at 21:20
Ethiopia are no longer limited. Wait and see what the next VB brings…
January 11, 2016 at 08:33
my case number is 2015af00072xxx am i still safe?When do i expect 2NLS if am safe…pliz help
January 11, 2016 at 08:35
Am from Kenya….
January 11, 2016 at 21:25
The 2015 lottery is over. You cannot get your visa now.
January 11, 2016 at 21:25
The 2015 lottery is over. You cannot get your visa now.
January 10, 2016 at 15:51
1.what is the reasen for to be late ?
2.After that what will be the process ?
January 10, 2016 at 16:01
1. It is not late. It is always like that.
2. You prepare for the interview and schedule your medical.
January 10, 2016 at 15:44
Ethiopia is current at the same number as Africa – 18700.but my number is 16*** still no mail is their any thing that i don’t understand ?i need help
January 10, 2016 at 15:45
Only that you need to be patient. Wait around 2 weeks for your 2NL.
January 10, 2016 at 14:16
honestly, do you think that the case number 39000 has a chance to pass the interview?
If so , in what month about
January 10, 2016 at 15:33
I have already explained that in my recent posts. PLease read them to understand.
January 10, 2016 at 11:25
Thx a lot dear Brit for ur complete reply. Would you please provide us with an explanation for why the AP process is so slow and takes a long time for some selectees? They say that the max length would be 3 months, but some receive up to six month of AP or even more. why don’t they speed up the process of AP for a person with a little time to the end of Sep so that he or she can get the visa, too? Have they taken any action to speed up the AP process or do they have the capacity to do so esp for Iranian selectees?
January 10, 2016 at 15:40
AP is a period of background checks. Those checks can be extensive and slow, especially where the home country does not co-operate as is the case in Iran. The first priority is the security of the USA, not the selectees. So, if it takes a long time, that is unfortunate, but they won’t take shortcuts.
January 11, 2016 at 18:12
Thx Brit, you are the best! Your are right about the AP, but a large number of Iranians fail to get the visa since they cannot be clear because of the short time they’ve got to the end of Sep. isn’t it unfair??? Is there anything they are doing that we are not aware of to compensate for these failures so that we can enjoy an equal opportunity to get visa compared with other countries? These extremely long AP’s are dostorting this equality. For sure they know that in Iran all men HAVE TO go to military service and it is NOT their choice AT ALL!!! Knowing this, why don’t they do something about it, nor do they speed up the ap process of these people to let them keep up with other countries in receiving visa? If they cannot do this, why don’t they assign lower case numbers to Iranians and higher ones to other countries which don’t have this problem at all? If they do this, all the eligible people from different areas can get the visa equally!!
January 11, 2016 at 21:08
Iran considers the USA its enemy. It is hardly surprising that the USA is cautious…
January 10, 2016 at 00:43
hi! simon
does may i unlock my DS 260 to correct same mistakes. but see this slower, isn’there danger for me? my cn is: AF21xxx
January 10, 2016 at 00:44
No danger – hurry up and unlock!
January 9, 2016 at 18:18
Hi Simon,please help me with this question.if you mention someone on ds260 form as sponsor and the person sending you an affidavit of support for you and that person let you down,can you find someone different to be your sponsor?
January 9, 2016 at 18:38
Yes.
January 9, 2016 at 17:41
Dear Brit, my CN 2016AF00033xxx, my wife and I filled the DS260 on october 12 2015, and submitted, but I have not receive any notification or 2NL up to now so my questions here are 1) Are we safe with the cn we have 2) when should I expect my interview ?
January 9, 2016 at 18:41
You are not yet current.
1. Yes
2. May/June probably
January 10, 2016 at 06:47
Dear Brit, am confuse about the term being current or not current can you please help me to understand?
January 10, 2016 at 07:01
Read this
https://britsimonsays.com/read-visa-bulletin/
January 9, 2016 at 16:58
Exactly ..unlock also coming more
thanks lot mr, britsimon
January 9, 2016 at 16:13
hi britsimon ease send the papers for the time being reversed through the net as it was in the past did not solve the problem of processors but became delay element is not it ??
January 9, 2016 at 16:17
The online Forms have made the process slower…
January 9, 2016 at 15:11
Dear Brit
Last year for EU the diff between Jan and Feb was 3500 (20500 to 2400) this year only 1700 (19100 to 20800) Why do we process 50% people less now? Last year case numbers spreaded over EU40xxx this year EU24xxx and they are processing more slowly. Why is that ? is EU23xxx safe ?
January 9, 2016 at 17:34
Did you read the article above?? It’s the backlog coupled with the VERY fast pace last month. Stop stressing – I have explained many times that EU will go current.
January 9, 2016 at 20:27
Hi Brit
I have read your article but I thought that maybe this year we have less gaps in case numbers, I mean that more number between case numbers are valid – but It was only my fear thoughts.
BTW I have noticed now that I used my mom/s surname instead of surname at birth. I dont know how that happened.
My wquestion is : Does unlocking DS260 couse serious delays in interview date ?
January 11, 2016 at 08:38
Hell Simon,
My understanding of “going current” is when all the case numbers in a region have been scheduled for an interview; am I right? Do you think there is any chance Africa going current?
January 11, 2016 at 09:17
Hell Simon,
My understanding of “going current” is when all the case numbers in a region have been scheduled for an interview; am I right? Do you think there is any chance Africa going current?
January 11, 2016 at 21:24
I posted several analysis posts about that – read those.
January 9, 2016 at 15:06
Good day Brit!Thank you for the advice you give on this platform. Got a question. I entered the Dv programme as married customarily but only managed to legalize the marriage recently. My wife’s has not changed from her maiden name to my surname and its her family name that appear on the travel documents we supplied on the DS-260 from the beginning. Do you think this will be a problem or she will have to apply for a new passport to change to my family name? If so, would it suggest that I will have to unlock the DS-260 to furnish it with the new details again or she will have to present two passports during interviews?
Thank you
January 9, 2016 at 17:36
There is no requirement that a married woman takes the married name. However, be certain to prove you have a real relationship – to show why you added her at the beginning. You should be fine./
January 11, 2016 at 20:07
Thank you Brit!
January 9, 2016 at 09:46
am i correct Ethiopian case number whose still 16100.no movement this month!
January 9, 2016 at 18:28
No you are incorrect. Ethiopia is current at the same number as Africa – 18700.
January 9, 2016 at 08:02
I hope you well mr brittsimon i want help me please. I went country of my interview late which is addis ababa but i have no time to do medical examination so what do you suggest me to do while my interview is 11.jan.2016 monday. Please help me Sir.
January 9, 2016 at 18:33
Why on earth have you left it so late to set that up. You cannot change it now – you will have to attend the interview – and they will place you on AP until you provide the medical report.
January 9, 2016 at 07:29
Is the integration of Nepal with bulletins Asia will speed up the numbers or Asia Nepal will remain in isolation for the end of the bulletins
January 9, 2016 at 18:36
Incorrect – if Nepal is not limited, ASia pace would go slower controlled by KDU capacity. THat is what happened in previous years.
January 9, 2016 at 07:20
Hello Brit, I have a question thats been troubling me. My wife is the principal applicant and I will be accompaning her. While filling out the DS260 I kind of made a mistake on where I previously worked and filled it to be the current address and place of work. My question to you is. Is it possible to edit and change that information since our case hasn’t been posted as current yet, or should I just leave it as I am not the principal applicant ? My wife’s case number is AF000389** , Thank you
January 9, 2016 at 18:37
It isn’t VERY important, but you have plenty of time to wait anyway – so unlock and correct it.
https://britsimonsays.com/faq/how-do-i-unlock-my-ds260/
January 9, 2016 at 06:40
Hi Simon,
AF region last year and this year is very different; this is certainly as you mentioned due to backlog effect. Last year AF in March was 27,800 but this year 18,700. As you can observe the difference,
1. How do you see such a slow pace for AF region?
2. Do you think it will match with your prediction under your post” When will I have interview?”
3. Can the pace be faster than any other times and the numbers can be lifted up significantly?
4. How do you see DV2015 and DV2016 relatively especially for AF region?
Many thanks
January 9, 2016 at 06:56
1. As I expected.
2. Not exactly – but that wasn’t my intention.
3. Will speed up later.
4. Similar in some ways.
January 9, 2016 at 05:52
hi brit, i have one more question. is is ti possible to go to any other country after getting dv visa. cause i am goinn to go to Korea for 2-3 months. if it is possible, should we submitt smth to US immigration? thanks a lot.
January 9, 2016 at 05:58
You are free to go wherever you like.
January 9, 2016 at 04:54
Hi simon , thank you for explaining us again . The reason we are asking ((am i safe or not )) is that because we are worried and we have tension . And by you answering and explaining us , the tension decreases. So thank you fot spending your time for us
January 9, 2016 at 04:20
when do u think the next bullet number for Ethiopia to be announce ?and what is the updated bullet number for Ethiopia
January 9, 2016 at 04:28
It was published today – Ethiopia matches the rest of AF region now.
January 9, 2016 at 04:11
With this pace, it means the consulates will have to work extra time in the last few months of the FY to meet the quotas.
January 9, 2016 at 04:28
There is nothing wrong with the pace so far!
January 9, 2016 at 04:09
what’s happening in Ethiopia my case number is around 162**
January 9, 2016 at 04:29
So your case is now current for March interviews.
January 9, 2016 at 04:08
what’s happening in Ethiopia may case number is around 162**
January 9, 2016 at 03:23
Could you please use your math to predict future cutoff numbers
January 9, 2016 at 04:27
I have – but be careful wit these as they are long range estimates…
https://britsimonsays.com/016-analysis-issued-rate-and-predictions/
January 9, 2016 at 06:30
yes, I have read that. I meant small range estimates. Just the cutoffs. Or should I assume in case of AF (47000-18200)/6 would be the approximate increase in the next month
January 9, 2016 at 06:54
I may predict next month…
January 9, 2016 at 17:08
Is it because you would need more information? Please do it now if you can. I really need some time planning. This bulletin delays what I want to do now
January 9, 2016 at 17:26
Relax – calm down. The latest VB was released yesterday and already you are stressing about the next one.
January 9, 2016 at 02:57
In your previous post you considered any number below 47k as safe, for AF. I remember DV 2015 you predicted any number below 65k was safe, and you were wrong by a big margin.
Am Assuming if you are right then we might see big jumps of 10k diffrence to get to case numbers over 40k. Otherwise if your prediction is wrong then we might see final case number between 30-40k.
My case number is 35k, and honestly I think if I will get interviewed it might be last two months of August Or September
January 9, 2016 at 02:46
In previous post, you said any case number below 47000 is safe for AF. That means we might see high jumps of roughly 10k., at least to get to that case number. Is it true.
Second question let’s assume this backlog still there for the next three months, i think it’s possible so many people might be disappointed, by final Cutoff being in the range of 30-40k. I remember for DV2015 you considered case below 65k for AF as safe.
My case number is 35k,
January 9, 2016 at 03:08
It is true that with 8 months still to go of the year, anything I say now is a long term guess and therefore not as accurate. You may know that I reduced my safe range to 55K last year before the final bulletin – and as the results show – 55K was easily achievable if they had filled the available quota – which they did not. So – I can be very accurate with the math – but that doesn’t mean KCC will do what is mathematically possible.
Now you seem confused about how many months are left. There are 6 months after this point so instead of the 10k per month you mention, they could reach my 47K number in 6 jumps of less than 5k per month.
Next, if you have read my posts on density you should realize that we are in the second level of density for AF (about 600 cases per 1000 case numbers. The first level was about 800 cases/1000 and at about 29000 we will step down to about 400 cases per 1000. That is why later months tend to have faster progression of the VB – as there as less cases per 1000, they need more case numbers to get the same cases.
Further, I have fully explained the backlog effect on AF this afternoon in the post above. As you will note – I expect a decline of the monthly backlog effect each month – so again that will allow faster increases each month in later months.
Finally, let me say this. There are 22350 cases up to case number 36000. If 61% respond (like last year) that means 13633 cases will respond under 36000. That covers about 27000 people. Since not all case will be approved we can take the issued rate from last year (62.5%) and apply that to the 27000 – which means I expect only 17000 visas to be issued from the case numbers up to 36000. That cannoty max out the quota.
So – short answer – R E L A X!!!!
January 9, 2016 at 03:39
I fully understand now. Thanks lots for your Explanation.
January 9, 2016 at 09:47
Hi dear Brit,
I totally agree with Martin CS Tee, who suggested the overhaul. They can extend the dead line of selectees’ form submission to the end of June, and mention this deadline on the winning page so that people can shake a leg and prioritize this important task of filling out the forms. A significant number of those people who are sure of their visa issance at the time of interview and do not receive AP will delay filling out these forms, so that’s why this wicked backlog effect is created. Some Iranian selectees and other nationalities that receive AP very potentially are the most affected by this law. I think they should behave these winners with more care so that their right will not be spoiled.
They can even mention this form submission deadline at the entry page that “if you are selected, you need to fill out the form till the end of June!!” Be sure that if they did something like this, some back-laid people would take it more serious, things would be less stressful, people would know the aproximate time of their interview and they could plan the stuff with more confidence!! I know that a great number of people now are in suspense, which has affected their lives unblievably negatively!!! The lack of deadline on form submission is a great blunder that need to be overhauled. You memtioned that it is people’s right to do this at any time, you are right, but not at the cost of spoiling other selectees’ right and life!! You mentioned that this a law, right, but any law can have some loopholes and mistakes that need to be eliminated. What do you think of what I mentioned? Can selectees send an email with this content to KCC? Doing so, we may ameliorate the stuff a little bit!
January 9, 2016 at 18:28
As I already explained – that wouldn’t be legal.
But let me just address your concerns. You seem to think someone is being disadvantaged. They are not. You are saying lives and rights are being spoiled – that is rubbish!.
Let’s say there was no processing delay at all. Everyone submitted in May – and processing completed overnight. What would have happened. I can tell you precisely using AF as an example.
61% of cases would have responded, and there were 800 cases per 1000 case numbers – so roughly 500 cases per 1000. The density drops in two levels in AF down to 600/1000 at At the issued rate and derivative rates from last year they would have needed about 1400/1500 cases to be interviewed each month. Which would have needed about 3000 case numbers for the first 4 months, then about 4000 to 4500 per month for the next 4 months and 5000 to 6000 per month for the last 4 months. In other words we would be very slightly ahead of where we are now (about 20000 after 6 months).
The issue is that in starting at 9100 people got “excited” without listening to what I was saying about the backlog effect (I did warn about this – several times). So nothing bad happened, no great blunder, no lives spoiled, NOTHING. The end point is the same end point.
Stop putting so much significance on the case numbers – or if you do – please take the time to understand what I have explained here, and what I have been saying for months.
January 10, 2016 at 11:07
Thx Brit for ur complete reply. Would u please provide us with an explanation for the AP slow proccess since it takes a long time for some selectees to get clear? Have they taken an action to speed it up or do they have the capacity to do so esp for Iranians?
January 9, 2016 at 01:38
Hi Brit, thanks for the explanation. I really think this process of DV needs an overhaul in order to reduce the backlog effect. For example, when the selectees are announced in May, all selectees should submit the DS260 form by end of June. Failing for doing so will result in forfeiting the right to proceed further.
All forms submitted by end of June will not cause the work overload on KCC because KCC will still be able to process DS260 forms according to the selectees’ case number, i.e. smaller numbers get processed first. This will hopefully eliminate the unnecessary idle time on both KCC and the consulates world wide. Each consulate will know how many interviews to be scheduled every month more precisely.
KCC on the other hand will be able to know by end of June the response rate and will be able to forecast the cut off number (not definite) better early on, so that selectees with higher case numbers will not get stress out for too many months and can focus on other things in life.
January 9, 2016 at 01:55
That suggestion would not be legal or necessary.
I say not legal because the process is controlled by laws. They cannot just forfeit the rights of some people because they submitted late. The law says they can’t do that – and in any case some people had good reason to delay such as obtaining passports, getting married and so on.
The embassies are not “idle” because of the backlog. The solution KCC used was to start the initial VB numbers very high which yielded the right number of cases for interview. There was no impact to anyone – but of course it is confusing people who don’t read my blog! 🙂
The system does not need overhaul – people just need to be more patient.
January 9, 2016 at 01:32
Dear brit does nepal will be removef from limit next month?
January 9, 2016 at 01:55
I don’t know.