The Visa Bulletin for October interviews has been published. I always expect the VBs to be published between the first and the 15th of each month, so it is interesting that they published right on the first day. For DV2023 cases this is the first VB that affects scheduling. Now – many people are going to look at the numbers and come up with all sorts of theories about what it means for the rest of the year. Honestly, it is not that simple. You cannot predict the whole year based on the first VB. So please don’t try that or fall for the “pronouncements” of others who think they know. They don’t.
I am interested to see the “except” countries. I explain below why some countries are called out that way, but there are some “new” countries added to the list that are not normally added. That represents to me a little more tight control by the VO, which I hope will mean this year will be run better than the last three years.
Video to explain how to read the VB
Those that are current, and have forms processed early enough, can normally expect their 2NL in the next 2 to 3 weeks from now. The new no documents procedure is still a little unknown, so we will have to wait and see exactly how that goes. This is supposed to be the same every month. VB from the 8th to the 15th of each month, and 2NLs in the second half of the month. For the last few months there have been 2NLs in daily batches. I would normally expect all the interview 2NLs to have all been sent by the end of this month, but we can see recently they are exceeding that to try and get as many interviews in as possible. They can be sent right up until the last day of the month, and even the first few days of the following month during exceptional times.
To those new to looking at VBs, let me explain what the “except” XXX country means – and you can also read this post on how to read the visa bulletin.
Processing is spread out over the full year. You can see the progress of the two previous years in this post about basic questions. However, some countries have a high number of selectees and those selectees are concentrated in the lower case numbers. For various reasons, mainly to do with embassy capacity, KCC slow down certain countries as compared to the region. So – in Africa, any case with a case number shown as under the new number can be interviewed but for cases from Egypt, that number is lower. That isn’t a big problem, it just “slows down” those countries a little more than the rest of the region. Since selectees from those countries all have lower case numbers, this slowing down does not present any risk. It does not (at this point) mean they won’t allow all selectees an interview from those countries.
To understand why some countries get lower case numbers, read this article about the lottery draw process.
November 20, 2023 at 21:58
Dear Brit,
I was given a 2020 green card. Can you please inform me whether i am still able to use this visa?
I was unallowed to leave the country due to Trumps exemption laws and also Australias at the time as it was during Covid. I received the visa, it was approved, i just had to fly into the US to validate it, but unfortunately it expired before i was able to do so. Are there any options available to me to put this into use.
Thank-you, I very much look forward to hearing from you. Please email me to the supplied email address. I feel it could really help to improve my career to have this. Thankyou for your time.
Kind regards,
Vanessa Moltzen
November 20, 2023 at 23:54
You have waited far to long to reasonably claim the inability to travel that was caused by COVID. That covers some time – but you waited another 2 years?? I don’t think that can be explained/justified.
I suggest you try and win again.
August 31, 2022 at 12:33
Hi sir, please my friend’s case number is 45117.. and I wanted to know when his 2NLs will be published.. He’s sent his DS260..
thanks
Andràs
September 5, 2022 at 20:41
No year or region… so no answer.
August 22, 2022 at 10:28
Hi Brit,
Thank you for all the help!
My sponsor’s spouse’s passport has expired. She is an USA born.
Is there any other alternative doc she can use to make the I-134 form be valid?
Thank you.
August 23, 2022 at 03:52
The passport is not a requirement – any government issued photo ID (such as a drivers license).
August 28, 2022 at 20:36
Drivers license.
August 19, 2022 at 22:43
My daughter has resided in the USA since the age of 13 on an 0-3 visa. She got selected for the Green Card lottery. She has no bank accounts as she’s not allowed one here and not needed one in Australia. How do we prove she has the required funds? We are going back to Australia in December, should we open one then and put it in?
August 22, 2022 at 04:38
An I-134 might be useful – or a bank account in her name with a substantial deposit.
August 16, 2022 at 04:58
A follow up on the above question, ie my locked first page on interview location, when i highlight review it is not unlocking
August 16, 2022 at 04:55
Hi Britsimon, I am filling my DS 260 and made a mistake on the first page, i.e interview location. I am currently in US and want to DO AOS. Unfortunately, I put Darsalam as my interview location and now it is locked. I can’t change. WHAT DO I DO ?
August 22, 2022 at 04:00
You will need to email KCC.
The thread below will be useful for you.
https://forums.immigration.com/threads/dv-2023-aos-adjustment-of-status-only.345837/
August 14, 2022 at 17:19
Hello Brit, I’m a DV 2023 winner. The mailing address I used on my application is not the same in my DS 260. This is because the mailing address I used in my application was my mom’s office place, but now the office is closed, so I decided to use our home address as the new mailing address in my DS 260. Will this affect my application?
August 12, 2022 at 05:01
Hi again Brit, what resource would you advise to use to determine whether I-134 will be needed/helpful during interview? Is it safe to assume the form is not needed if the bank statement shows double the savings outlined for a corresponding state you are planning to immigrate to here (essentially double the living income for a family of 4): https://247wallst.com/state/this-is-the-income-a-family-needs-to-cover-normal-living-expenses-in-nevada/
In addition, is the real estate owned (paid off mortgage loan) in the current country of residence viewed as an asset for diversity candidates even if the property (properties) not put up for sale at the time of the interview?
August 12, 2022 at 05:05
Liquid assets of at least $10K per person is often thought to be enough, but it is subjective.
August 10, 2022 at 07:08
Hi Brit! Our case number is 2023AS28** and according to the visa bulletin we will be called for interview on November as ig. So I’m one of derivatives. And the problem is I’m turning to 21 years old on this October. I read your previous article on CSPA and I’m totally aware of it. But in the website of my country’s consular office it says that the child should be in the USA before their 21st birthday!!! So this is confusing and hope your advice for this.
August 12, 2022 at 00:28
Ignore the statement by the consular office.
August 10, 2022 at 04:39
Hi Brit, thank you for all your helpful videos! I’m in need of your expert opinion please in regards to DV23 Europe 12XXX, BUT from Russia. With current situation and having a limit implemented on processing Russian applicants, two questions: 1. Is it possible to potentially have current European cases being at 20K+ (of course referring to Q3 2023), but still have Russia limited to a substantially lower number of selected interviewees well before reaching the county-allotment, basically meaning Russians being skipped and processing only other European counties and leaving Russia as a TBD/not issuing any diversity visas to Russians OR limiting them to a few hundred people rather than a few thousands like in the past? 2. When is the information published on case numbers and interviews per country (if ever)? Example: out of selected EU30XXX candidates, X amount is from Spain, with X amount having the interview scheduled, X amount is from Russia with X amount being ready for interview. First, got excited and hopeful about getting a chance to immigrate to USA, but now getting discouraged will not even get a chance to have an interview ????
August 12, 2022 at 00:26
1. Possible – possibly. Will it happen – no.
2. We will have the data in January for DV2023 cases, but we only know the embassy locations as the cases are scheduled. “‘
August 12, 2022 at 04:38
Copy that-thank you for sharing your opinion on the first question and sharing the information on more data being published! Really appreciate all your help you provide to all the people hoping to immigrate to the USA!
August 9, 2022 at 22:19
Hi Brit, does an individual/principal applicant also needs to fill form 1-134.I meant an applicant with no derivatives. Anyway I am Dv 2023 winner with CN Af 47k..Thanks
August 12, 2022 at 00:21
Yes, that can sometimes be required.
August 9, 2022 at 17:18
Greetings from Peru, wishing you all the best. My CN is 2023SA000008**, I am really surprised how things are running with the VB so according the chart for SA region will start the schedulling interviews on october until 500 CN, right? and the next group will be current at the end of their interviews I believe? Mr. Brit . Blessings for all your noble work.
August 12, 2022 at 00:03
Yes the first VB was pretty good. We will see how it continues.
August 9, 2022 at 08:32
Mate, how’s tricks?
Do you think cutoff EU to 5700 in October could mean a quick and early scheduling for 2023 winners? Can you envision if going on October at 5700, then by June 2023 they will be at 31K?
August 11, 2022 at 23:58
As I mention in the video it would be a mistake to think we can calculate things based on one VB.
August 9, 2022 at 04:19
Hi Simon, DV2023 winner and case number AS19XX. Traveling to US next week with F1 visa for undergrad four year degree. My case number is current for Oct. when should I start my AOS? Is it wise to start the process October itself?
August 11, 2022 at 23:57
No. You must not file too early after arriving on an F1. You will be presumed to have lied about your intentions when you entered and that can lead to refusal. Wait until you have been in the USA for at least 60 days.
August 12, 2022 at 03:15
Thank for your reply. I presume 60 days from the date of arrival. So OCT 20 I will be there in US for 60 days. Other point is I have started my University application process just after my high school during 2021 Oct and accepted the university offer before I knew I was a winner. So intention was purely for studies. since the course starts in Aug, only way to attend through F1 visa. I Hope it will not be a problem if I start the process end October. I would like to know your opinion.
August 12, 2022 at 03:19
What’s your rush? Slow down a little.
August 8, 2022 at 20:54
Hi Brit. Do you know what is the current government position in regards to the COVID vaccine? I am not vaccinated neither is any of my derivatives and if possible we would like to keep it like that… I am asking because the official information says that for whatever type of travel the person needs to be vaccinated, however I have friends that have traveled to the US in recent days/months that are not vaccinated either and they told me they just presented a negative test (less than 24 hours) and they had no problem traveling… could not find much related to this topic online… thanks in advance for any info you might have!
note: I know that your position is more pro-vaccine I just don´t share that part… at least with this specific one… my family and I have pretty much any other vaccine that is out there… so is not like we are bringing the plage to the US 🙂
August 8, 2022 at 23:35
You are correct about my stance on vaccines. I don’t understand why people won’t do such a simple thing for their community. It’s not only about your health, it’s the old person that dies because you transported covid and spread it to them. That is how my mother died – so I speak with some experience. And your objections to the vaccine are based on non scientific nonsense.
Having said that, the vaccine is required for immigrants, just as other vaccines are. If the vaccine is available in your country, the physician will expect proof you are vaccinated or will arrange the vaccination for you.
August 9, 2022 at 02:24
Lol is funny that you say that my objections to the vaccine are based on non scientific nonsense but you haven´t even heard any single objection from me… I am sorry about your mother I truly am but as you probably have also heard from CDC and Fauci… being vaccineated does not prevent getting covid, (Biden is a recent proof of that) therefore doesn´t prevent transported to someone else either… you seem like a very analitical person to me… so not really sure why is this not so evident to you…
August 9, 2022 at 03:44
I have debated this many times. And one of the standard objections and arguments is this ridiculous one.
No, the vaccine doesn’t give 100% immunity and someone can catch the virus even when vaccinated. That is the same for car seatbelts which cannot always save your life, just as body armor worn by the military cannot guarantee you won’t be injured/killed. But in all those cases we use a little common sense and realize that improving your chances is a good thing, and in the case of the vaccine the reduction of the spread makes a huge difference. So – this non scientific nonsensical point you made is so easily defeated as an argument that I am amazed people still bring it up.
Got any actual real objections, or do you just not give a crap about protecting anyone else?
August 9, 2022 at 18:33
Gee you are so emotional… I agree with all you said in personal terms… if you want to “improve” your chances good! go ahead… but all those examples don´t make any sense when you compare them to the virus… I will tell you what they sound… wear your seatbelt or I might die in a car accident… I want to improve my chances of survival to a car accident by forcing you to wear your seatbelt… If you can catch it you can transmit it… that is my point… I am surprised that you like after the 4th shot still don´t understand that… but you can keep calling non scientific nonsense all you want… that is freedom! and that is why we all want to make it to US… cuz we don´t want to live in places where someone else can tell you what to do or force you to (in general terms, I am not an anarquist)
If I have to do it I will… is not like I will pass on this oportunity just because of the damn shot… but that shit of protecting others is just BS…
August 12, 2022 at 00:09
OMG. I can’t believe you don’t get what you are being told. Your chances are yours. I don’t give a crap about your decisions – apart from what your decisions do to others. The vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the virus. That is certain, and I assume you are not arguing that.
So if you have less chance of contracting the virus you have less chance of being a carrier and infecting others. That is the whole point. It’s not about your selfish decision it is about what everyone in a community is expected to do for other people in the community.
And please don’t give me that freedumb line. It’s fucking moronic. You sound like a Trumper.
August 8, 2022 at 17:23
As you say there are countries that are except most of the years. If you are a DV selectee from one of these countries with a pretty high case number does it mean you have a really low chance for an interview? Like Uzbekistan that’s usually capped at 14k in the previous years, if your number is in 20-30k the chances for the interview are rather small it seems
August 8, 2022 at 23:25
Not necessarily. Too early to make guesses or assumptions like that.
August 8, 2022 at 16:25
Dear Brit, thanks you make understanding very easy, I have a CN AF202320K and I haven’t submitted my Ds260 due to Passport issue. Will be too late to miss out if I submit after 30th September, passport will be ready in October? Pls help clarify
August 8, 2022 at 23:22
No
August 8, 2022 at 15:31
Dear Brit, I know you might have already answered this several times elsewhere. So basically with the new no documents policy, we should just expect the 2NL after being current and no email confirmation re D260 being processed or any instructions to submit documents?
August 8, 2022 at 23:21
Correct