OK – I have been contacted by a young man who has been refused for his DV visa by Accra embassy. He agreed for my to publish some of what he told me to warn others who might go through the same thing and to try and prepare people for how they should react.
Here is his interview “transcript” based on what he remembers.
CO told me to swear
Me I swear
Co I known you are student, so tell me where do you school
Me college of agricultural
Co; what’s agricultural
Me: answer
Co: what did you learnt last week.
Me; crop production
CO; what’s crop production
Me; answer
CO; what did you learnt from crop
Me: the difference between growth rate as compared to previous days and also de leave margins. Etc
CO; what did you also learn.
Me: I also learned more about vegetables and maize production. And also I want to greenhouse to learn disease n pests in vegetables
Co; what you’re telling me is not true. Do you something to show that YOU are a student at the college of agricultural.
Me; yes
Co; show it
Me; I brought out my result slip
CO; good result, you had grade A in mathematics. What’s mathematics.
Me; answer
CO: YOU also had grade A in chemistry.
Me: madam please I did chemistry, mathematical; crops, animal science etc all in my 1st years* level 100. So please I can talk more of my present course as now im in my final year* level 400
CO; yes I know but you still need to tell me something about what you learn in chemistry.
Me: thank you madam, I learned organic chemistry@ atom, nuclear , nucleus.
CO. Im sorry atom, nucleus and all what you mentioned is not part of chemistry.
Me; madam is part of chemistry topics
CO: im sorry I can’t give you VISA.
OK – so what happened. Well the CO was asking a number of questions to establish that the applicant had indeed attended the educational courses he said he had. The CO administered an “oral examination”. This is HIGHLY unusual and I am not suggesting that anyone worries that the same will happen to them, BUT it is absolutely clear to me that this oral examination should NOT have been administered. So – in the unlikely case this comes up in your interview, how should you handle it?
Right – why do I say this should not have been administered? COs operate to a set of instructions. The instructions interpret the laws that control immigration law and give guidelines on how cases should be handled. The instructions are in the “Foreign Affairs Manual” and this particular area is covered in 9 FAM 42.33 N7.3. That document is available in pdf format here.
IN that section part (b) says:-
“A DV refusal must be based on evidence that the alien did not in fact obtain the required degree and not on your assessment of the alien’s knowledge level. You may not administer an exam, either oral or written, to test an applicant’s basic knowledge in order to determine whether they have the equivalent of a U.S. high school education. You may not refuse a DV applicant solely on the basis of your analysis of the applicant’s basic knowledge. Doubts about the applicant’s claimed educational level raised by your interview, however, may lead you to investigate the authenticity of the educational credentials claimed by the DV applicant.”
In other words, if the CO doubted the credentials presented the CO would have been entitled to put the selectee on AP while the credentials were checked. However, the CO refused the case solely on the educational assessment that should NOT have been administered in the first place!
So – if this happens – what can you do? Well you must understand that there is no formal appeal. KCC cannot help, and the embassy cannot be FORCED to reconsider. So, while I have advised the selectee to request a supervisor to review the case, this request could easily be denied.
So, if this happens you must remain calm and polite. It is ideal to arm yourself with knowledge about these matters and you can respectfully request that the CO puts you on AP and takes a supervisors opinion. If you have the 9 FAM pdf printed out you could refer the CO to that. Honestly, you have to use “honey” because you cannot win an argument since these COs are powerful. They do not HAVE to ask a supervisor for a review, you have NO rights. This is directly in contrast with an immigration interview on US soil where the selectee does have rights. So – you have to persuade, not threaten.
Please be prepared for your interview. In my own case I was being delayed by a USA field office for my own DV interview. I had to spend 75 minutes persuading an immigration officer that she was wrong and thankfully I had printed information with me to prove what I was asking for was right. However, your case is YOUR case. Prepare well and hopefully you will sail though. I should mention that the VAST majority of DV interviews are 2 to 3 minutes long and not at all difficult. It is a great shame that we hear of cases like this one – and I hope this obviously bad decision gets reversed.
Update:
The embassy responded as follows.
“We wish to inform you that there are no reviews or appeals in Diversity Visa cases. Applicants are expected to demonstrate a basic level of knowledge commensurate with their documents. For example, if you passed your English exam, then it would be reasonable to expect that you speak enough English to have an interview. If you present and advanced degree in biology, then it would be reasonable to assume that you can speak logically and well about general biology topics.”
This is ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT. The COs are not trained to administer oral examinations and their skill level in interpreting the answers can lead to incorrect adjudication. For that exact reason, the Department of State has created guidelines to ensure they do ont administer these oral examinations, but as we can see, Accra Embassy seems to believe it is OK to administer these oral exams. It isn’t OK.
Based on their response I have contacted the embassy through their FB page with a post here. The text of that post is copied below.
The action of the CO and the subsequent response was UTTERLY incorrect and Mr Seitz and Mr Cretz should tackle this deliberate misapplication of the rules with immediate action. This reflects very badly on the ability of the embassy to administer the rules according to the guidelines given.
In administering the oral examination, the CO was behaving contrary to Department of State guidelines as laid out in the Foreign Affairs Manual ( 9 FAM 42.33 N7.3) where it is stated:-
“A DV refusal must be based on evidence that the alien did not in fact obtain the required degree and not on your assessment of the alien’s knowledge level. You may not administer an exam, either oral or written, to test an applicant’s basic knowledge in order to determine whether they have the equivalent of a U.S. high school education. You may not refuse a DV applicant solely on the basis of your analysis of the applicant’s basic knowledge. Doubts about the applicant’s claimed educational level raised by your interview, however, may lead you to investigate the authenticity of the educational credentials claimed by the DV applicant” I will gladly provide the details of the selectee in order that this mistake can be rectified as soon as possible. A transcript of the interview is here:-
November 23, 2023 at 05:09
Dear Simon please I wanted to changed my host and address. I wrote to KCC but this was their response for me
Thank you for your inquiry.
The applicant should carry this information with them to their interview appointment.
Your case number is now current for interview processing. If you are scheduled for an interview date, you will receive notification via email to check https://dvprogram.state.gov. If you need to make changes to your DS-260 you should contact the consular section where you will be interviewed, or bring the information about your changes to your interview appointment. Because your case is ready to be scheduled, KCC can no longer unlock your application.
Please should I contact the consular now or wait for the interview for changes to be done?
November 23, 2023 at 11:54
You will now have to change the address at the interview (which is what I would have recommended anyway).
June 12, 2022 at 04:23
hey Simon,
so my wife went to her interview recently and this very grumpy looking CO denied her case on Section 212(a)(5)(A) stating does not meet minimum education requirement for visa class.
she was applying through work experience, NOT education. and during the interview CO has verbally informed her, this is due to as the last company she worked, she is working as non-permanent so that she can decided when to start work and when to finish daily, but she logs more than 45 Hours of work per week.
so plainly its due to some of her work experience is considered ‘part time’, even though she works more than a full time worker.
she did have the documents to prove her working hours but the CO didn’t even look at them. do u think whether she can get a reconsideration if i send an email to the Chief of the Consular section with all the necessary details?
June 12, 2022 at 14:43
The problem might be the type of work she does. In general, there is no formal appeal process.
June 12, 2022 at 16:00
What most people do not understand is that not every work experience is accepted. There is a list of accepted jobs and an applicant has to meet the one of the jobs listed in zone 4 or 5. Which jobs, in most of the countries require a high-school education.
Just as an example (no offense to anybody) 30 years of experience as a janitor does not qualify as work experience.
June 14, 2022 at 06:15
She is a QS, in US the profession is called ‘Cost Estimator’ which is in the acceptable job range and SVP. the only thing was one service certificate has her as a part time worker.
i’m preparing a request for reconsideration for the embassy. shall i address it to the ‘Chief of Consular Section’ or to the ambassador??
June 14, 2022 at 13:02
You can try but most probably won’t get any change. You have to addressed the request to the Consul, the ambassador doesn’t deal with visas.
How long did she worked as a QS? Were her time logs validated by the company?
June 18, 2022 at 03:50
Has been working since 2005, for the past 5 years bit more than 3 years she has worked like a consultant. so no fixed hours for her to go to office or construction sites. thats the reason CO has refused the case. we did have documentation addition to the normal service certificate to prove that she worked more than 45 hrs but the CO refused to take a look at it. i have sent an email to the Chief of Consular section requesting a reconsideration. but no reply at present. patiently waiting.
June 18, 2022 at 19:21
You need to consider the evidence you can show. If someone has been working as a consultant, they should be able to show invoices and accounts showing the income earned reflects the full time nature of the job. The lack of preparation is probably the reason for the denial. Put in the effort, you may have one chance.
June 18, 2022 at 16:43
Copy both.
September 27, 2019 at 00:03
I failed in mathematics, can I be denied of my visa?
September 27, 2019 at 23:26
Maybe – if the requirements mean you need that subject.
July 26, 2019 at 11:23
Hi
I have a high school and university degree (MD)and beside that i have 2 years of work experince as well ,my question is ,in my interview will the consider both my education and work experience or just one of them to make me legible for us visa
Tanx
June 11, 2019 at 17:47
The confirmation was done in court and I was even compelled to have my ex husband do a power of attorney , as well as have him write a letter with his passport picture page from England be submitted for the judge to accept our case.
We were Married customarily and did not register it, neither did we register when we annulled it.
However,I have been married to my loving husband since 2016…. and they will never ever break our spirits or tear us apart.
June 11, 2019 at 17:37
Dear Brit,
I’m from Ghana and was wrongfully refused an ir1 visa because my first divorce was a CONFIRMATION done in 2019… stating that I was legally divorced in 2001.. and had the liberty to remarry anytime from then.
The co just assumed it was annulled in 2019 and didn’t bother to read the context.
He shouted at me all the way through the interview.
Why do they do behave in such a manner.?
It’s horrible being interviewed in Accra.
June 11, 2019 at 18:46
Unfortunately the COs in Ghana have to endure a steady stream of people with fraudulent documents, a loose understanding of the word honesty, and an intent to cheat. So – the COs probably start being “normal” but end up being short tempered.
March 11, 2019 at 21:16
Hi simon,
I have a question I’m from taiwan Which is an eligible country for DV my husband is from Central America El Salvador which country is not eligible but I’m the applicant so we still can go forward!!! I Went to the interview and It was susccesful, but my husband got an administration processing paper, which means that it will get refused or is going to wait for KCC processing the visa? The CO told me that my visa was granted but my husband is in processing administration because case is not yet ? Do u know anything about it?
March 11, 2019 at 23:30
If you were the winner he can be charged to your country. I don’t know why he is on AP, so I cannot say anything about that.
March 14, 2019 at 19:30
Thanks simon and I would like to thank you and also I would like to share my experiences with anyone cuz it was a long interview n it could help anyone !
August 9, 2018 at 17:24
Yes sir, you are right. I can particpate next time? This year my 12 grade education completed.
August 9, 2018 at 19:33
Yes you can participate, but if selected make sure you meet the requirements.
August 9, 2018 at 15:16
Sorry sir my English is so bad.
I could not satisfy them. Co. says you are refues.
So please help me. Sir
August 9, 2018 at 15:27
OK – as far as I can tell, you were refused because you tried to pass on work experience, but your work for your father. So – you are refused, there is no appeal. They have judged you are not qualified. It is over.
August 7, 2018 at 10:38
I had given my experience. He was on a simple paper. He could not satisfy this experience letter. I work with my Father. He is his business. I work as a supervisor. Who has made a mistake from me. I couldn’t give it to my father’s business letter pad. So please Help me any advice.
August 7, 2018 at 13:51
My advice is to get someone who speaks English to help you make your question clear.
August 6, 2018 at 07:59
Please I need help, my application was refused and I want to appeal, I want to know if I can do so?. And what is the process and the procedures. section 212 A(5)a
Thank you.
August 6, 2018 at 16:54
What was the reason you were refused?
November 7, 2017 at 19:49
Hi simon
I waz approved for dv viza and later they sent me email that i am refused and give me appointment when i go the officer tell me he wont aprove me without a reason and he didnt give me refusal paper what can i do
Am from ethiopia
November 7, 2017 at 19:57
You are not being clear. What is the reason for the refusal? Does the refusal paper list a reason (like a code) – if so what is that?
August 15, 2017 at 14:54
Thanks for the information mr simon,my cousin got denied 2009 from Liberia from cases like this. The CO asked the entire family to define equation including the 16&13 years children at the embassy. At that time visa was sold for 775 USD per person, can you imagine 4presons in#.he could not live with the frustration looking at the saturation here in Africa. My cousin kill himself after 2 months of the interview.
August 15, 2017 at 15:29
What a sad outcome…
August 14, 2018 at 20:37
Hello Mr Simon, thanks for everything you did and continue to do for us on this website. Currently speaking I am in the U S with my kids and we are really happy seeing ourself in a new environment trying to make life okay with works. I have a question with this page that give you your case status as it relate to nvc,ready, transit etc why is it that 40cases range who summited ds260 but are no longer part of the draw but their cases still appearing at nvc?
August 14, 2018 at 22:21
“At NVC” is a starting status for ALL cases. It doesn’t have any meaning other than that.
December 7, 2016 at 17:19
Dear Simon,
You said that you had been delayed by an USA field officer, can you explain what was the issue or its too personal ?
Thank you
December 7, 2016 at 17:35
Are you talking about my own case? I did adjustment of status (in the USA). I was current in June, and had filed early. My case was ready for interview in July, but the FO delayed my interview simply so that they could process a few other DV cases at the same time (i.e. for their convenience, not mine). That unfairly caused delay and risk to my case – which was annoying at the time, but there was no remedy. So – I didn’t get interviewed/approved until September.
June 30, 2016 at 22:57
Hello Brit,
I have been selected for further processing but there is an issue. My date of birth as captured by kcc is 22/05/1993 instead of 22/06/1991 and my surname was spelt Teiku instead of Tieku. Will this be a problem as I am in Ghana?
June 30, 2016 at 23:05
I think you have a high chance of being refused.
June 19, 2016 at 16:47
My friend and his wife won the DV2016 and was called for interview. The consul didn’t interview them. He just gave the a white paper stating labor certification requirement which I think don’t apply to them when they have all the required documents for them to be granted a visa and that is unfair.No criminal record, good medical, high school, work experience, strong affidavit, legal marriage certificate and pictures. Why did they took their money when they know they not gonna interview them? Please I need someone to help us so they can get their visa. What should we do.
June 19, 2016 at 17:00
It sounds like they failed to meet the requirements in some way. The reason might have been written on the paper, and should have been explained to them. I could probably figure out the reason for the refusal by asking you questions, but there is no appeal process, the refusal is final.
June 19, 2016 at 17:28
They didn’t explain nothing to them. They check mark on the paper state LABOR CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENT. The consul didn’t even say a word to them not even ask a question. And when they were trying to ask him, he just wall away.
June 19, 2016 at 18:16
The labor certification refusal code is used for DV cases. It is not about labor certification, it is about a failure to comply with the rules of the lottery or meet the requirements of the lottery.
June 19, 2016 at 18:18
So why did they tell them it labor certification when they have something different and didn’t they explain to them
June 19, 2016 at 18:59
I just explained. It is standard refusal rule for DV lottery. As for what they did or did not explain – it’s difficult to say since we weren’t there.
June 2, 2016 at 15:22
thanks i am from Ethiopia grade 10 means high school what about my age i am 17 years old
June 2, 2016 at 15:38
Being 17 isn’t in itself a problem. But your education has to be the same level as an American child that has completed their “High School” and is able to enter University. In America, that is usually attained at age 18.
June 1, 2016 at 14:07
I just won dv lottery this year… the date of birth on my birth certificate is exactly as my passport but the date of birth on my high school certificate has an error..thus 26th February instead of 6th February…will I be given visa if I swear an affidavit on my high school certificate??
June 1, 2016 at 22:29
Many people (often from Africa) think that a sworn affidavit is a powerful “weapon” in their defense. It isn’t. You can present a document with an explanation or with an explanation and an affidavit. Ultimately it comes down to whether the CO believes you.
Now to your problem. That could create a problem in certain embassies (Ghana for instance). Others will be less worried. Take whatever real proof you can take that the education certificate is YOURS.
June 2, 2016 at 12:09
hello britsi i won dv 2017 my case no is 2017AF9xxx i am 17 year old and i am gread 10 what shall i do? is there any hop?
June 2, 2016 at 13:57
I can’t say because I don’t know what grade 10 means in your country – I don’t even know your country! Find out the required education level in your country (embassy website). If you can reach that level before September 2017, then there might be a chance since you can delay submission of your DS260.
February 4, 2016 at 20:19
This oral examination also happened to me at my interview at Accra,Ghana. I’ll be posting my interview experience soon…i was however able to sail through as the C.O was satisfied with my answers though those before me weren’t as fortunate.. An error such as an additional letter to your name, even with an affidavit of support would probably cost you your visa at Accra Embassy due to the high rate of fraud. Please avoid errors on the eDV and the DS 260….and most importantly be honest……
. Brit you’ve been such a great help. God bless you and all the very best to you all!
February 4, 2016 at 20:22
I’m glad to hear you were successful!
February 16, 2016 at 13:57
hello lynux
pls can you tell me the price of medical exam in accra and the terms of payment?
im away from home
hope to hear from u soon
June 26, 2015 at 07:55
Dear BritSimon,
I am a DV2015 winner from Cambodia. My case number is 2015AS1637. I am a graduated student. I just have a job for 6 months. I went to embassy for my interview on 25th of June. I prepared all the necessary documents for interview. My sponsor is my cousin of father side. He was born in the US. He is single and earned about 48000$ in 2014. During my interview the consular officer ask me about my sponsor who filled the I-134 form for me. The officer asked me who is my sponsor, where he live, what his job and I answers all his questions correctly. After he asked me to show the photo of sponsor and I did it. Later he asked me to show my photo with the sponsor I said I don’t have cos I never toke a photo with him and he only visited Cambodia for one time only. He ask me to sit for a while and called me back. I am really surprised when he said he didn’t believe my relationship with my sponsor he worried I became a public charge and he rejected my DV visa. I argued with him that my sponsor is really my relative and I asked him to investigate my case and decided later but he said NO cos he already decided.
I would like to ask you how can I file a complain and where I can do it. I lost my job and also spent a lot for the processing.
Please Simon help me to find the way to help me.
Best Regards,
Sreytouch
June 27, 2015 at 15:25
As has been answered on other forums, there is no appeal process. The CO did not find your information credible and made a decision – they have that power and it cannot be reversed. I’m sorry.
June 28, 2015 at 16:24
why did you interview so late if you got your number currrent in october?
June 22, 2015 at 10:31
did you this person get an answer from the embassy after the facebook page contact?
June 22, 2015 at 15:54
THe embassy have so far maintained their position.
June 19, 2015 at 13:54
Hi Mr, Simon i want to know my case number is safty 2016af000062xx my reason is i want to fill my ds260 form in june 2016 because of my high school certifcate and m y passport or i can start filling it ds260 form and wait my certifcate and my passport i want to advice me….
June 19, 2015 at 14:10
Yes that is safe.
June 10, 2015 at 21:41
Hi Simon
Thank you for your blog, it helped me to decide to push forward with a situation which is occurring for many ears in my own country. Although Ițm a US citizen now, I was an DV applicant once upon the time… Nowadays I’m trying to help people who going through the program. Some of them are denied visa because they do not have a Baccalaureate diploma, even when they have a High School Diploma certifying that they graduate from High School and thus they have a secondary education, as is established by the law. But US Consulate IV section keep rejecting them and ask for a Baccalaureate Diploma,,, which is needed only if the person is interested in pursuing an college education.
Wish me luck!
June 9, 2015 at 11:09
hey brit the co refuse me visa with out sawing my document what shall i do? i am from Ethiopia even he did not interview me is that what America did to poor people after they took around 1000 dollar, special the co makes my mind dirty.tell me exactly what to do?
June 9, 2015 at 14:02
OK – first of all. There is no right of appeal.
Now, you are welcome to explain the circumstances of the refusal so that I can help you understand, but there is probably nothing you can do to win your case at this point.
June 24, 2015 at 23:53
hi simon but what about waiver ites like apeal no?
June 25, 2015 at 01:45
No that is not like an appeal.
June 7, 2015 at 19:51
Any news yet on what dv 2015 final number might be?
June 6, 2015 at 23:48
there are a question – related to this post – there are a question in DS260 about foreign language ,i have a two master’s degree ( in law & in business ) and so my wife is a Physician & she have a master degree , but actually we can’t speak English well because we don’t exercise it in our life or in our work ?
if we show it in DS260 that we have not a second language it will be strange ?
how can we answer this question
June 7, 2015 at 02:45
It is most important to be truthful. As for English – you will learn fast!
June 6, 2015 at 22:29
Please my case number is 2016AF41XXX what is my last delay to sent the DS260, because i still need to make sure of some documents?
June 6, 2015 at 22:39
You have several months yet.
June 6, 2015 at 04:06
Hello!
I know this may sound weird but my interview got scheduled next month and the thing is that im carrying a beard for style purpose, im from morooco and im scared that my beard would have any bad impact on my visa as it could be taken as a religious belief eventhough im not religious, what do you think Simon?
June 6, 2015 at 04:43
No issue. All religions are respected in the usa any way.
June 4, 2015 at 16:02
Bad story. Stay strong Ghanaian friend.
June 4, 2015 at 15:17
THE CO has no sense of Chemistry… Why the hell are that Atoms, nucleus not parts of chemistry?
June 4, 2015 at 18:27
And that is exactly why the law says the CO should not administer a test – they are not qualified to do so.
June 4, 2015 at 14:29
Aprt from embassy location is there any where that you can claim when there is incorrect refusal for your case?
June 4, 2015 at 20:36
No. There is no formal appeal process – the CO decision cannot be reversed unless they decide to do it themselves. So – chances to get them to reverse their decision is always going to be a low chance….
June 4, 2015 at 13:11
my cac 496×× i have chance
June 4, 2015 at 18:28
2015af496××
June 9, 2015 at 22:08
contact me to [email protected]
June 4, 2015 at 20:38
You don’t mention the year, but that is a good number in DV2015 or DV2016
June 4, 2015 at 23:16
dv 2015
June 4, 2015 at 11:35
“It is ideal to arm yourself with knowledge about these matters and you can respectfully request that the CO puts you on AP and takes a supervisors opinion.”
Who is CO, please advise so that i can try to request them to put me in Ap list.
June 4, 2015 at 20:46
The CO is the person who interviews you. AS we have discussed by email, your case is a different scenario.
June 4, 2015 at 10:33
cystash, sorry for real, my… i dont know what to say. i feel you.
pllease in box me [email protected] we can talk
June 4, 2015 at 11:00
Alright i will
June 4, 2015 at 10:09
Hey Brit something like happened to me today, this is for real and in Africa, i got all the supporting evidence/documents on work experience but she said that i failed. please tell me how i can go about it and talk to the supervisor, I am from kenya. this will really help. im feeling a little bit frustrated and still hope i can get another chance.
June 4, 2015 at 12:08
Cystash
Did you provide your high school kcse certificate, or were you qualifying on work experience. The work experience is the most difficult one. Please let me know more about your case. Am also from kenya and this my email address, [email protected]
June 4, 2015 at 09:32
It seems that I am not the only one that has this problem. Although I have given the officer the certificate that is acceptable by the embassy to prove that i have finished high school and although it has 5 seals and signatures from different government institutions and although they have sent agent to my school to check if my name is on the archives they still keep asking me for further evidence which even they cant name what sort of evidence, just generaly further evidence. They asked me about photos from school i gave it to them now this. Even them they do not know what to ask me anymore. Just further evidence so they can keep me on AP until the visas run out. I have given them the highest evidence but they refuse to accept it. They have 99 reasons facts and defacto documents to justify giving me the visa buy they refuse to do so just on a doubt that they have in their brains, more like i dont like your face you don’t get a visa. Hence why my question to you Simon is there someone above these lunatics with too much power in their hands judging peoples futures. Thank you for providing this story and this pdf. Every little helps.
June 5, 2015 at 04:58
There is no higher power. They have that power – so you can only do your best to prove your case to their satisfaction.
June 4, 2015 at 08:43
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June 4, 2015 at 08:42
This is heart breaking…..
June 4, 2015 at 08:12
It needs to be fired for this. It is necessary to file a complaint.
June 4, 2015 at 06:20
This is really really bad
June 4, 2015 at 01:44
I wonder why Ghana has the highest refusal rate. Are documents there easily falsified that the CO is very alert about it?
in the last CEAC data extract, 266 visas were issued while 416 were refused in Accra embassy.
June 4, 2015 at 01:55
Ghana has high fraud levels, low (but improving) standards of official record keeping, confused marriage laws and customs with all sorts of religious interpretations, low income levels locally and so on.
They also have COs that get to say the word “Refused” very often so the COs are not at all concerned about adding to the refused pile.
June 4, 2015 at 01:06
Its shameful act to the whole US COs!
June 4, 2015 at 00:21
wow that’s awful, i guess the CO can refuse visas if he/she likes right? so there’s nothing you can do? it almost sounds like a sitcom joke or candid camera show of some kind.
so it doesn’t matter what the rule is or it’s correct or incorrect, if he doesnt like how you look, that’s it?
🙁
June 4, 2015 at 00:57
Yes in theory that is true – but these denials are rare – at least outside of Ghana.
June 4, 2015 at 00:02
Unfortunately this happens in most ‘developing/underdevelopped countries’ .. I live in Morocco , and if someone in charge is in a bad mood (airconditioner not working .. or whatever) they pour their anger on someone else ..
June 4, 2015 at 05:21
Yes, I am sure you are right.
June 3, 2015 at 23:58
She was in a bad mood ,lol
June 3, 2015 at 23:50
What the….? Said person should contact the embassy for sure.
June 3, 2015 at 23:29
Hello Simon,
I read the instructions and I believe that the High school diploma is at least requirement. I’m saying that because it is almost impossible to obtain my diploma with the ongoing mess in my country. So what I have in hand is my Bachelor transcripts from my native country, my master’s and doctorate transcripts from USA. Do you think that they will insist to have my high school diploma? I’m going to do AOS.
Regards,
Sue
June 4, 2015 at 00:56
You should obtain your high school diploma. It sounds daft I know – but they will sometimes insist on that even though higher degrees are shown – and to be fair – that is the correct application of the rule.
June 4, 2015 at 01:14
5. What are the requirements for education or work experience?
U.S. immigration law and regulations require that every DV entrant must have at least a high school education or its equivalent.
It is impossible for me to get my diploma now as I tried before and they said I should for 20 Months.
June 4, 2015 at 01:52
Well Sue – it is your call. Sometimes they have accepted higher degrees – sometimes they haven’t. On my case, (my wife was the principal) she showed her higher degrees but the CO wanted high school records and proof of high school graduation. As I said before – that is the “correct” interpretation of the law – so although some COs accept the higher degrees – they are not following the rules to the letter.
June 4, 2015 at 02:20
I believe you are right. However, I’m doing AOS and now I was looking for the requirements and I just found no mention to the educational level or any other documents mentioned in the DV instructions. Do I need to submit them even they didn’t list them?
June 4, 2015 at 05:20
AoS is not specific to DV. However, for any AoS you have to show eligibility. For DV that includes showing you meet the educational requirements. You might also be able to prove your case meets the work experience grounds – that is just as good.
https://britsimonsays.com/education-or-work-experience-qualifying-for-the-dv-lottery/