First – a BIG thanks to Xarthisius who has just published the CEAC data for DV2023. The data is available at his site here.
Getting the data reveals a few things as I had explained in my preview post from yesterday.
First, the High Case numbers for each region. They are:
AF 63502
AS 26126
EU 35525
OC 2843
SA 3158
NA 13
AF is MUCH lower than I had assumed, and AS and SA are also significantly lower than my expectations. That means less holes, and whilst you might have been feeling confident at a number like AF62XXX, you must now be a little more concerned. For example, let’s say your case number is 2023AF62003 – you have only 380 cases higher than your number and 28954 before you. And remember, each case number includes the winner and the derivatives. You can check your position within the region on Xarthisius’ site.
Other findings are these points
In Asia region, it looks like Nepal hit the cutoff at just under 21000, and Iran at about 16K
Africa region has cutoff countries at about 43K, 48k and 58K. One of thoose is Egypt, and others may be Ghana, Algeria and Morocco, but I am not sure yet which is which.
In Europe it looks like we have two countries cutoff at around 18K, which is probably Uzbekistan and possibly Russia.
Neither OC nor SA have cutoffs.
In general cutoffs are not really such a big problem since almost no countries have response and success rates high enough to threaten the country cap (no country can have more than 7% of the global quota). Only Nepal has a realistic chance of hitting the cap, so there might be a little risk for the highest Nepal cases – but even that is not likely.
If you want to know why these cutoffs occur, please watch this video which explains the draw process.
In terms of progress so far this year, it looks like a pretty good start to the year. Some observations:
- 4991 visas already issued (from 2538 cases)
- 9205 cases scheduled so far (17747 people including derivatives). That includes scheduled interviews up to February.
- Response rate and DS260 processing look pretty good. If you look at the early numbers from each region, about half of the cases are already scheduled. That can only happen when people have responded, and their DS260 is processed. So – they are well over halfway through the submitted DS260s across the whole number range.
OK – that’s my initial impression of the data.
You can check your own case at CEAC
And if you wonder what the status codes mean – please read this:
The first status for every case is “AT NVC”. You can ignore the text on the case – the case has not been passed to NVC. What this status means is that the case is in one of the following situations.
- The case is not yet current.
- The case is current, BUT the DS260 has not be submitted at all, or it was submitted but not processed yet – and therefore not scheduled.
- The case is current, the form is processed, but it is waiting to be scheduled (typically because the cases have not yet been sent to the embassies yet).
PLEASE IGNORE the NVC information that appears – it is a standard message and DOES NOT APPLY to DV cases
“In Transit”
This status is shown for a brief period when KCC has scheduled the interview, and transferred the case to the embassy. However, the embassy has not yet updated CEAC to acknowledge they have received the case.
“READY”
This is the next status after in transit. It means the case has arrived at the embassy for interview. Sometimes a case will continue to show ready even after the interview.
“Issued”
Pretty obviously – this is the status we all want to see! The interview took place, was successful and the visa has been approved/issued.
“Refused” (2 versions)
This status can have two meanings. The usage of the status codes was updated about 2 years ago, so I should clarify the more modern use of the codes.
Cases are refused either temporarily or permanently.
Refused 221g – The temporary refusal is actually a status called 221(g) and is a period of time where someone did not have all the documents at the interview OR some additional checks are needed before the case can be adjudicated. 221(g) (commonly called AP) can last a few days or several months. The status updates during that time are almost meaningless (apart from one – see below) . To know if the refusal is the temporary type or the final refusal, you read the text under the REFUSED status on the CEAC status check site. If the text is as shown below (we call it the long text), then your case is in 221(g). Xarthisius actually determines that in his file and assigns those cases a status in his data of Refused221g.
“A U.S. consular officer has adjudicated and refused your visa application. Please follow any instructions provided by the consular officer. If you were informed by the consular officer that your case was refused for administrative processing, your case will remain refused while undergoing such processing. You will receive another adjudication once such processing is complete. Please be advised that the processing time varies and that you will be contacted if additional information is needed. For more information, please visit TRAVEL.STATE.GOV or the website for the Embassy or Consulate at which you made your visa application.”
Refused final – The other type of refusal is the permanent one. This is the status no one wants to see, meaning the interview took place and the selectee was denied. A derivative can be refused, while the principal is approved. However, if the principal is refused – all the derivatives are refused also – even if the embassy fails to update CEAC and leaves the derivatives as “ready”. It is very very rare to overcome permanent refusal. There is no official appeal process, so whilst some cases could later change from refused to issued, it is exceedingly rare (a handful of cases each year).
The permanent refusal has this text under the description on the CEAC status check site – often referred to as “the short text”. “A U.S. consular officer has adjudicated and refused your visa application. Please see the letter you received at the interview.”
“Administrative Processing”
This status used to be used for the 221g cases, however, it is no longer used that way. Now, this is the only useful status update that people may see before their case shows issued. Sometimes a case will go to Ready or Refused221g to “Administrative Processing”. That is actually the visa printing process happening, and the applicant can expect to see “issued” within a few days. This status lasts up to a week in normal times, but could last longer if there are problems with the visa printing process. The status looks like below and still has the “old” description that suggests Refused 221g. That is because the 221G status was generally known as “Administrative Processing” (and is still referred to that way).
Derivative number.
For cases that are scheduled we can see the related derivative numbers. Case 01 is the principal and derivatives are case 02, 03 and so on.
October 22, 2023 at 21:57
Hi Simon, this is Mayra from Peru, I would like to know If you consider My case number high It is 2024SA00004…, I sent My Ds260 on Juane 6th, I was trying to check My Status at CEAC but It says Invalid case number, Is there something wrong with My application?
I appreciate your time.
Best Regards.
October 23, 2023 at 07:30
The CEAC system won’tg allow status checking until January 1. So – patience.
October 22, 2023 at 15:44
Hi Britsimon !I am checking for CEAC 2023 update for October but I see since 01/10/2023 no have update !We can’t wait for update.
Thank you so much.
October 22, 2023 at 16:07
You cannot check any DV2024 cases until January 1.
October 23, 2023 at 19:04
Thank You so much God Bless You 🙏!
September 28, 2023 at 05:13
Hi Brit,
Since they say that all their visa has finished for 2023, then why can’t they allocate few visas from 2024 only for those applicants who were successfully interviewed and their passports were retained with them.
These decisions are made by humans not by machines and it can be changed accordingly.
And it was not only a verbal approval, it was in writing as well.
In their emails they mentioned that “You will only be scheduled for an interview when and if there is a visa number available for you”,
Can you please elaborate on this?
September 28, 2023 at 08:27
They are not entitled to move visas from one year to another year like that – it’s not a human decision, its the law.
No you did NOT have an approval in writing.
You need to accept this and move on.
September 26, 2023 at 22:12
Hi Brit
I was approved a visa and passport was held for visa issuance on 22nd August in Suva, 202300001912, however when I checked for my passport this week then they replied that they cannot issue a visa as visa capacity has been met. Can they do this after appoving my visa?
What should I do now.
Thank you,
Dev
September 27, 2023 at 00:20
There is nothing you can do. Yes they can do that, and they had warned in the very first letter that visas were limited and more than 119000 selectees had been selected, with only 55000 visas available.
September 26, 2023 at 21:58
Hi Brit,
I won the FY2023 lottery from OC region and my case number is in 1900. I was called for an interview on the 22nd August and my interview was successful. I was congratulated by the Consular officer that my immigrant Visa application is approved and they will keep my passport to attach my visa by mid of September 2023. They mentioned that they will let us know through email when the passport is ready for pickup.
I waited for their email till 25th which is like a month and then I wrote them an email regarding my passport and my visa. They replied on the 26th stating that the DV lottery has reached its limit on the 6th of September therefore I was unable to receive a visa.
How can they deny my visa if it was approved? I have also noticed that they have issued visa to case numbers higher than mine, how was that possible? According to my understanding all visa interview and issuance should process according to the case numbers and if I was interviewed first then my visa was confirmed and should be issued to me first.
I need justice and I really look forward that you can help me out.
Will desperately wait for your reply..
Vinaka with King Regards
Rose .
September 27, 2023 at 00:19
A verbal approval is not binding. You don’t have a right to a visa, so there is no way to appeal or change the outcome.
56000 visas have been issued, there are no more to give out.
It is normal that higher cases can get issued first since it partially depends on when your DS260 is processed.
September 9, 2023 at 19:27
Hello BritSimon, Please I am Clem from Ghana. I received this email from the KCC on 06 September 2023 in response to an enquiry about the status of my application.
“Thank you for your inquiry. Your case number is now current for interview processing. Once the interview date has been scheduled, you will receive notification via email to check https://dvprogram.state.gov. If you need to make changes to your DS-260 you should contact the consular section where you will be interviewed, or bring the information about your changes to your interview appointment. Because your case is ready to be scheduled, KCC can no longer unlock your application.”
Please how do I interpret this? What is my fate as far as DV2023 is concerned?
September 10, 2023 at 09:43
Your chance is gone. All the visas were issued.
September 7, 2023 at 13:48
HiBrit! Already had my interview on 31st August in Fiji (OC). They had taken our passport and said to wait for email in two weeks time. Our visa was approved then staright after the interview. Would you know if we will be issued a visa or not.
September 4, 2023 at 04:28
Hello BritSimon, my name is Shiroz, I am from Uzbekistan. My case is 2023EU1271×. Can I be scheduled for an interview by the end of September? I filled out DS-260 in August 2022. Thank you very much for the answer and for your kind attention
September 4, 2023 at 11:43
If you have not already been scheduled, then your chance is over. No further interviews will be set.
August 16, 2023 at 21:21
Is there hope for an interview date at the Casa Blanca consulate?
August 17, 2023 at 11:58
For DV2023, no – 2NLs are over.
For DV2024, yes there will be interviews.
August 18, 2023 at 04:54
And for sudanese?for dv2023 over?
August 19, 2023 at 09:23
For everyone from any country.
August 16, 2023 at 06:15
Hello Brit,
Trust you’re keeping well. I’m a DV2023 winner with interview scheduled for September. My concern is, I’m a single mother and I wish to know if I’ll need a letter of consent from my kid’s father(we are no longer in a relationship) regarding traveling with my kid after visa issuance. Also, is this something I can get asked about during the interview? I kindly await your response!
August 16, 2023 at 20:02
Yes they might ask about it, and you would need a letter if you don’t have 100% custody.
August 17, 2023 at 03:34
Ok Brit! Thanks for being helpful as always.
August 15, 2023 at 00:20
Hey Simon,
I’m 2023AF36K from Uganda and my status is still at NVC/KCC, do I stand a chance?
August 15, 2023 at 00:39
Sadly, no. No further interviews will be set.
August 12, 2023 at 03:57
Hello Simon, I hope you are doing well. I think you already know, the 2nl were never sent to Morocco for the month of September. Moroccan winners still have hope since this has never happened before. especially since the quotas are far from being reached and there is no other interview scheduled for August and September. we contacted the consulate and all we got as a response was that they ended up with the winners of dv 23. we also contacted kcc and nvc, unfortunately we had no satisfactory response from the three parties. unfortunately, today we are an exception, our Algerian and Egyptian brothers who were also late received the 2nls and interviews were scheduled for September. all we want is for the 2nls to be sent to morocco for september as it was supposed to be done. there are still a few hundred of us waiting for our chance. it would be unfortunate to be deprived of it after being selected. my case is 479** and like many others we are only looking for solutions or answers. what can we do ! Thanks in advance for your response and advice.
August 12, 2023 at 10:27
You can’t do anything, and should not continue to torture yourselves by hoping.
The reality is that KCC have scheduled enough cases (even allowing for no shows and refusals) to fully fill and even exceed the global quota. That is without them clearing any of the 5800 people that are on 221g that already had their interview, paid their fees and so on. Additionally there are people doing AOS (in America) that are taking from the same quota.
So imagine this. Imagine a football stadium. The stadium holds 55000 people maximum. 48500 people are already inside, so there are 6500 seats left and the line of people already told they will be able to get in is at least 12000 people long. So its going to be a mess.
You are hoping to be allowed to join the back of that line. What would be the point of that?
August 12, 2023 at 17:05
Thanks for the explanation and for taking the time.
August 6, 2023 at 21:28
hello Simon , i’m from Morocco and my case number is 48k. at this moment we didn’t receive the interview appointement for september.
i just wanna ask you if there any chances to receive the 2ndL or not.
thank you
August 6, 2023 at 23:04
My best guess would be no, but I am not 100% sure.
July 31, 2023 at 17:18
Hi Simon, I have a case number of 2023AS10k, and Riyadh embassy did not schedule an interview for AS for the past 2 months, did they reach their maximum, should i still expect a 2NL?
July 31, 2023 at 17:48
They scheduled 90 cases for September interviews. It doesn’t matter to them whether those cases are AF or AS regions. However, visas are in short supply and whilst you might hope for a 2NL, I suggest you don’t “expect” that to happen.
July 23, 2023 at 01:58
Hi Simon, some people say that Ankara(Turkey) is not part of the EU region. Is this true?
July 23, 2023 at 10:50
Most people consider Turkey to be part of Asia (because most of Turkey is within Asia). However, the USA categorizes Turkey as part of Europe for immigration purposes.
July 17, 2023 at 02:20
HI Simon. I would like to say THANK YOU for your guidance along this journey. I am a 2023 dv winner (23af26k) who got his visa issued last month in Zambia, and planning to relocate in September. I’m grateful sir. Be blessed.
July 18, 2023 at 00:53
Awesome – congratulations!
July 16, 2023 at 17:40
Hello, First thank you for your explanation. Me I filled my DS 260 at May this year my case number is 2023AF29**. I received an email from the KCC telling me that my case is current. My embassy is located in France. Do you have any information by chance about my case or do I have the chance to get an interview? Thank you!
July 17, 2023 at 19:40
Some people received interview notifications last Friday and today. We are nearing the end of chances for scheduling. Your chance up to now has been based on how the embassy is operating, it is also now about the short supply of visas.
June 20, 2023 at 01:37
Hi Simon, my case number is 2023AF48K, my case has been on current since May.. Embassy for the interview is Ghana… Is there a chance to receive my 2NL ?
June 21, 2023 at 12:39
Ghana are restricting the number of interviews they take each month. That has caused a long “backlog” to be built up of cases such as yours that are ready to be interviewed and current. However, I do NOT think the Ghana embassy will grant interviews to all those people waiting – I think many will end up disappointed. We have tried to stop that behavior in the past via lawsuits, but none have been fully successful in varying the behavior of the embassies. So – you can wait and hope, but your chances are very small.
June 26, 2023 at 10:36
Thank you Simon for the update
June 12, 2023 at 01:31
Hi Mr Simon trust you’re doing ok my case number is 2023AF47945 I just checked my status it says the case number is a hole please I wish to know what that implies and is there any course to be worried?
June 12, 2023 at 09:39
It implies you are making a mistake.
June 11, 2023 at 02:47
Hello Simon.
I follow you on YT from Iran .the contents you provide there are one of kind and i truly appreciate that.
How high are my chances to Receive 2NL? case no: 2024AS15*** . ds-260 form submited on 1 june 2024.
When approximately my case you suppose will be scedule for interview in embassy of Armenia?
Thanks
June 12, 2023 at 09:03
As you will have heard on my videos, we don’t know the number of selectees yet – so there is no way to say anything about your case number. We will know more in July or August.
June 10, 2023 at 06:00
Hello Brit Simon, please tell me if I have a chance to be called for an interview? I sent case EU2023 32*** ds260 from Ukraine in June 2022?
very worried.
Thanks a lot!
June 10, 2023 at 12:17
I can’t predict your chances.
June 10, 2023 at 02:03
Hi Brit, I am from Kenya and my case number is 34***.
I have checked the CEAC data for Nairobi Embassy and I see huge gaps in the case proccessing. For example they have jumped from 24000 to 29000 and from 29000 to 34000 with only one case number in each range. Is there cause to worry if my case number is in between and not scheduled yet?
June 10, 2023 at 12:05
When you see an embassy has “reached” a certain number, it does NOT mean that every case below that number has been scheduled. You can understand that better by watching the video below. Unfortunately your embassy has not given enough interviews and so has built a large backlog of cases. I don’t knbow whether you will be one of the ones to get scheduled or not. Many will not.
https://youtu.be/8D5QzxAiXBI
June 9, 2023 at 06:02
Hi Simon,
How is the Jerusalem, Israel embassy doing? Should I be worried?
Thanks
June 9, 2023 at 12:22
It’s OK.
June 8, 2023 at 14:25
Hello Mr. simon,
I want to tell you about my case.
I come from Asia more precisely (Jordan). My case Number 24500. I validated my DS in May 22, 2022.
What is my chance to do the interview for 2023 DV?.
June 8, 2023 at 17:54
I don’t know.
June 7, 2023 at 04:42
Hi Simon
Hope all is going well with you.
I was one of the winners from Baghdad-Iraq and was required to change my interview appointment to another embassy than Baghdad, I transfer it to the Abu-Dhabi embassy.
I validated my DS on May-22 and my status is still NVC, Do I have a chance to receive the 2NL?
Appreciate your advice
Many thanks
June 7, 2023 at 13:00
I don’t know
May 29, 2023 at 05:17
Hi Brit… a friend who is a DV2024 selectee was filling the DS-260 form but after she got to some part and saved, she can no longer access the part of the form where she needs to select the languages shes speaks and reads and the additional work and education information.
How could this issue be resolved? We need help
May 29, 2023 at 09:10
The form “reacts” to data input. So – she might be able to go back and change an answer that allows that section. But no need to obsess about it.
May 29, 2023 at 05:14
Hi Brit…
Checking from the Xarthisius data website on desktop and mobile phones present 2 different information.
For example, on desktop for Accra embassy, it says the current cn range worked on is 24k-25k but on the mobile phone browse, it says 24k-28k. please I want to know which one is correct and can be trusted. Thank you
May 29, 2023 at 09:06
If in doubt, download the data and read.
May 26, 2023 at 21:28
Hi, Brit… Please I believe you are fine. My case number is 2024AF23*** I have filled the DS-260 and submitted successfully two weeks ago, but anytime I check in my CEAC to find out it tells me invalid confirmation visa number. Please what should I do?
May 27, 2023 at 11:15
CEAC status check is not available for DV2024 cases yet
May 25, 2023 at 20:14
Hi Simon
My number is OC25XX. Wondering if that number is going to be current.
As per Visa Bulletin for July CN it has reached till 1650 only. 3 More months, is there a chance this number will be current.
Much appreciated
May 27, 2023 at 10:57
I don’t have a prediction.
May 24, 2023 at 22:49
Hello brit
it’s good I just received my 2nl.
THANKS
May 24, 2023 at 06:54
Hi Simon
Question : My case was processed and it was current at December 2022 . Why is second notification /2nl not sent for me? since 3 month( 3 notifications) are only left I have started to worry And I am from Ethiopia Addis Ababa, my case number is 8K,Is there problem in the embassy ? My Case number was low also I had better chance to receive the 2nd notification/Email?
May 25, 2023 at 09:14
Addis embassy have restricted the number of interviews they accept each month – so it is clear that some people will not ever get their interview and will lose their chance. Whether that happens in your case or not depends on how many people are ahead of you in the AV queue for that embassy.
May 24, 2023 at 02:56
Hello bruts.
apologies for the inconvenience.
I just checked my case on ceac and it says in transit (your interview date has been provided to you).
But I check my emails and haven’t received anything.
What is the problem? according to you.
what should I do in this situation?
please give me more details.
May 25, 2023 at 09:07
You missed the email. It’s no problem, all you need to do is log in to the ESC page to get your appointment details.
June 2, 2024 at 11:36
Hi Mr Simon
Please I wish to ask about US embassy in bahrain its good for dv lottery because I am from cameroon and I fill and submit my ds260 already but planning to unblock and change interview location
June 2, 2024 at 13:34
Bahrain is a very small, quiet embassy. That might be OK.
May 22, 2023 at 21:32
Hello sir on 15/04/2023 I entered USA soil and that day I go to USCIS web site to pay fee for my green card text shows I am not required to pay fee but today I received a mail paper from USCIS saying that I should pay the fee for my green card I try to pay the fee but USCIS still shows after inter my A- number and CASE number , your A number and state Id indicate that you are exempt from paying this fee.
By the way I am Afghan DV2023
I don’t know what to do?
Thank you so much !
May 22, 2023 at 21:38
You could ask USCIS.
May 23, 2023 at 04:13
Hello Brit! My case status went from “refused” ( the long version) to “administrative processing” but it’s has been more than a week it’s has been showing such update. Meanwhile, those I attended interview along with have seen “issued” on their status. I want to know what might be the problem
May 23, 2023 at 07:45
Lack of patience is the only problem you have. You will see issued soon.
May 20, 2023 at 12:08
Hi britsimon.. I’m 2023 dv lottery winner from Asia. My case no AS24 * * *. What about my chances?
May 20, 2023 at 15:40
I don’t know.
May 20, 2023 at 10:32
Hi brit
I would like to know how long can a case stay in transit?
I checked my case and it is written in transit. so I want to know how long I can have my 2NL? knowing that I come from Africa more precisely from Benin.
thank you for your reply
May 20, 2023 at 15:36
It varies, some cases are updated to ready in a few hours, others are not updated for a couple of weeks. But either way, it doesn’t affect the case.
May 21, 2023 at 03:46
OK. thank you for your reply.
I’ll let you know if there’s any news.
May 19, 2023 at 21:28
Hi Birt,
Thanks for your analysis, videos, and help
my case been ready since Jan this year, AF272**, It is suppose to be scheduled in Riyadh Embassy, but so far nothing came through, based on your knowledge, should I still expect a 2NL?
Thanks
May 19, 2023 at 23:01
It is possible.
May 15, 2023 at 07:27
Hi Brit! Hope you’re doing good.
I have a worry. I’m a DV2023 winner, AF55k. I submitted my DS260 in May 2022 but by then my son hadn’t a passport yet. However, he eventually had it but I didn’t unlock my DS260 to update his passport information. I’m already current but haven’t received my 2NL yet. I’ll like to know if there’s anything I can do about it now. Hope my this doesn’t compromise my visa chances.
May 15, 2023 at 08:32
You can add his passport at the interview – no problem.
May 15, 2023 at 08:52
Ok Brit! Thank you so much! You’re the best 👌🏽
July 9, 2023 at 05:26
Please,Sir when will case number 2024AF28532 begin,I mean DV 2024CEAC DATA
July 9, 2023 at 11:37
I don’t know when that case number will be current – but as a guess, maybe late this year.
May 15, 2023 at 03:53
Hi Brit I’m from Oceania and.my case number 2023OC2260 just need a piece of advise from you if this case number will get any chance of interview since it’s high case number
May 9, 2023 at 03:54
Hello simon
I want to tell you about my case.
I come from Africa more precisely (Benin) with a cn 21 ***. I validated my DS in November.
I have a chance to receive the 2NL?
my cn is up to date since February but for the moment I have not received any email.
May 9, 2023 at 08:53
You have a chance.