OK, it is not even a full day since Trump has signed his executive order. Trump being Trump, the order is horribly confusing, and imprecise. It is difficult to be certain how it will impact people in the affected countries. I expect the situation will become more clear in the coming days. But here is what I consider to be known and credible right now. As usual my perspective is from a DV lottery perspective.
- The order affects nationals of 7 countries – Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen
- The order bans ENTRY for people from those 7 countries. However, that may also stop DV visa issuance for people from those countries. We will find out over the next few days.
- People are already being barred at the airports. Either they are being barred from starting a flight to the USA or they are being detained at the airport (and presumably returned to country of origin). ***Update Jan 29 – a judge ruled that people at the airport or already in transit when the ban was imposed could be allowed to enter ***
- This is affecting people who have valid visas (including our DV visas) AND people that are already Green Card holders. ***Update Jan 29 – Green Card holders will be allowed to enter.****
- The bar for the 7 countries lasts 90 days, but could be extended.
- Countries that do not co-operate with US intelligence community for background checks could be added to this list later.
- We do not know what impact this will have on DV lottery interviews in the next few weeks. ***Update Jan 29 – KCC have cancelled all scheduled interviews for people from the 7 countries ***
- I can’t be sure what this will mean for VB progress, but my best guess is that the pace will not change. Right now the ban is temporary, so KCC will perceive this as a delay, not an end, to cases from those countries. So, they will assume that cases will be processed and held on AP perhaps while the mess gets sorted out.
- Lawsuits to compensate for wasted costs etc are unlikely to succeed.
- The executive order itself is bound to be challenged. There is existing law that is designed to stop the type of discrimination exactly like Trump has ordered. Law is more powerful than a Presidential orders, so if that process is continued it would not be a surprise to see the order revised or revoked. Only time will tell.
- Embassies are beginning to react to the order. Sudan embassy is cancelling interviews and advising nationals or dual nationals from the 7 countries to not attend their interviews as visa issuance is suspended – while Trump is trying to skirt around the law by addressing “entries”, visa issuance should not be impeded in this way. The applicable law is in the INA section 202(a) which states ‘‘no person shall receive any preference or priority or be discriminated against in the issuance of an immigrant visa because of his race, sex, nationality, place of birth, or place of residence.’’. I have messaged the Sudan embassy to point out that they are acting against the law (and the law supersedes Presidential orders).
What I don’t know:
- What about people from the affected countries that have not yet entered and whose visas will expire within the 90 days? I don’t know.
- Will interviews be cancelled? I don’t know.
I am completely disgusted by Trump and his disgraceful behavior. I am hopeful that our system of checks and balances will work to enforce the laws of the land that stop this type of discrimination.
April 10, 2017 at 01:50
hi Brit,
I am an Indian by citizenship and hold an Indian passport as well, but I was born in Libya as my dad was serving the army hospital. currently I reside in Kuala lumpur.Will the travel ban affect me? I wanted to relocate back as my husband is working for a MNC from US.
any thoughts..
April 10, 2017 at 02:55
There is no travel ban in force at the moment.
April 10, 2017 at 04:59
what about the Dv lottery for 2019?
April 10, 2017 at 05:24
It is still on as far as we know – but the lotteries are never announced officially until September or so.
February 3, 2017 at 17:32
Hello Brit, can you please help us understand information about the dv lottery program. It’s true that the United States president has cancelled the dv lottery program. If it’s true, which want?
February 2, 2017 at 21:00
Thanks my dear God bless you
February 2, 2017 at 20:18
Hi brit I just read executive order about Ethiopia visa that he will allows only 100 visa per year is it affects 2017 winer from Ethiopia & I’m 2017 winer from Ethiopia my case number is 22xxx I’m not scheduled still hopefully I will schedule the coming Buellton@ April. So what u think my dear brother is it concerned us? Looks forward your response hopefully.
February 2, 2017 at 20:37
Where on earth did you read that executive order about Ethiopia? Because no such thing has been published. The countries affected are Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, or Yemen. Do you see Ethiopia there? Be patient and stop repeating silly rumors.
February 1, 2017 at 17:03
BritSimon – I am a Lebanese citizen living in the US on an H1B visa and have won the 2017 DV lottery, waiting for a visa number to become available so I can file for a change of status. I am worried the ban situation begins to perplex and as a result, Lebanon is added on that list of 7 countries. Would highly appreciate your opinion.
February 1, 2017 at 18:49
I cannot predict what will happen about the ban or other countries being added to the list. There is nothing you can do other than to be ready to file as soon as your number is announced as current.
February 1, 2017 at 23:29
That’s the plan. Thank you very much for your proactive response across this bulletin.
February 1, 2017 at 04:11
Do you know if the EO will have any impact on the future winners of DV-2018 ?
(results will be available in May 2017).
February 1, 2017 at 04:17
The 90 days ends at the end of April, so unless it is extended for a LONG time, then No.
January 30, 2017 at 19:05
Alright BritSimon Thank You for ur advice I do iam not going outside
January 29, 2017 at 23:21
How does Trumps decision affect rest of the DV cases ? Will extreme vetting lead to longer background checks and administrative processing for the rest of the world as well ?
January 30, 2017 at 01:54
It is too early to know. Trump clearly doesn’t understand how extensive the background checks are already, so someone is going to have to draw a picture to explain to him. I’m sure they will tweak the background checks somehow, but these changes don’t happen overnight.
January 29, 2017 at 19:51
hello Brit
Am a Kenyan of Somali origin DV winner but yet to leave for the states.am i affected?
Thanks
January 30, 2017 at 02:05
If you are Somalian born, yes.
January 29, 2017 at 18:16
Hello Brit
Iam from Somalia and DV Winner but I Entered US. Two weeks ago and Paid the Green Fee $220 so does it will Effect to me or it’s only effect the people outside of the US.
Thank You BritSimon
January 29, 2017 at 18:40
You are safe. However, for the time being I advise you to not travel outside the USA.
January 29, 2017 at 15:47
Well it ain’t over at all but it is looking much better 😀
January 29, 2017 at 16:11
The relief order only affects people arrived and in transit. On the plus side, DHS are allowing LPRS to get on planes, and that then means a bit of red tape at the POE, but hopefully they will be admitting GC holders at least.the Whitehouse meanwhile clearly didn’t have a plan for all this. Pathetic.run
January 29, 2017 at 16:45
Etihad airlines in Abu Dhabi allowing GC holder to board and Etihad Abu Dhabi is one of this check in Airports out of the U.S
January 29, 2017 at 15:41
https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10154493423111939/?permPage=1
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a case against Trump’s Muslim ban a day after it was signed and forced through a temporary halt to the executive order.
Good news 😀 ?
January 29, 2017 at 16:18
That’s a good news for the people they re already at the airports in the states. They will let them in only. The newcomers still cant fly over there. DHS website states that clearly; https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/01/29/department-homeland-security-response-recent-litigation
January 29, 2017 at 13:08
Hello,
I am from Iraq and got my DV visa almost 4 months ago and didnt enter the USA yet. My DV visa will be expired if I cant get into the states before the 27th of April so What happens in that case? will i loose my Green Card right?
Thanks
January 29, 2017 at 16:14
I don’t know. Contact the embassy.
January 29, 2017 at 16:24
I ll do. Thanks Simon.
January 29, 2017 at 11:31
*THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION*
Way I see it is either Trump pull this off and pretty much us nationals of these countries are banned until he is out of the white house. (Time for plan z my people of misery 🙂 )
Or the orders gets revoked and then there will also be 2 possibilities
either a little bit of chaos or pretty much a month long of chaos or 3 months of no Visas at all and then everything is back to normal but this means that people with high numbers (like my self…. 😀 It’s a lovely day isn’t it aye mate?) won’t have time for an interview and you know where am heading with this.
Best of luck people.
and Dear Simon please feel free to delete this if you find it misleading. (LOL am not giving you permission this whole blog is your real estate but I think by now u got used to my rambling)
January 29, 2017 at 16:17
I will leave it here, but I think it is not correct. You underestimate the power of law. The president is not a dictator, law’s will be enforced.but it will take time.
January 29, 2017 at 11:18
https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/immigrate/diversity-visa/interview/visa-applicant-interview/Important-Annoucement.html
January 29, 2017 at 10:26
We got an email from the US embassy Ankara too not attend our interview …
Our interview is in march and we’re from Iraq
Thanks God anyway
January 29, 2017 at 11:14
Would you please copy the actual text here?
January 29, 2017 at 15:19
“Per U.S. Presidential Executive Order signed on January 27, 2017, visa issuance to aliens from the countries of Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen has been suspended effective immediately until further notification. Your upcoming VISA appointment was cancelled in compliance with these new directives.
If you are a national, or dual national, of one of these countries, please do not attempt to schedule a visa appointment, pay a visa fees at this time, or attend your previously scheduled visa appointment.
Please note that certain travel for official governmental purposes, related to official business at or on behalf of designated international organizations, on behalf of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or by certain officials is not subject to this suspension.
If you have questions or believe your appointment was cancelled in error, then send a detail email to [email protected]. Please monitor travel.state.gov and usvisa-info.com for further updates. “
January 29, 2017 at 08:20
I have a djibouti citizenship and passport and live in djibouti too, but originally from somalia. I wanted to apply student visa at the US embassy in DJIBOUTI. So will the ban affect me?
And thanks alot.
January 29, 2017 at 17:48
Yes.
January 29, 2017 at 07:23
What if you are from the affected countries but you are from christian minority?
January 29, 2017 at 17:49
The ban is applied on country, not religion.
February 1, 2017 at 04:20
Probably for the best, i support Trump as he is the president that knew this sudden awake of “fundamental’ Islamic ideology among new generation in those countries and its imminent risks, speaking of experience living 30+ years in 98% Muslim country. Europe should do the same, Brexit was good decision.
February 1, 2017 at 04:27
Both decisions are idiotic in my view – but you are entitled to your opinion.
January 28, 2017 at 22:45
https://mobile.emirates.com/us/english/operationUpdates.xhtml?indexId=3969890
http://support.qatarairways.com/hc/en-us/articles/216297888-Changes-to-entry-requirements-to-the-United-States
Just ti let you know both Qatar and Emirates airlines are acceptin3 green card holders to travel with them
January 28, 2017 at 21:34
Hello Brit
What about the people who stay in US Came Throught by DV and Applied the Green Card Are They banned or They are Free All those New System
Thank You Brit Waiting Your Response
January 28, 2017 at 21:53
If someone is already in the USA, they should stay.
January 28, 2017 at 20:39
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me.
~ Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)
Mark Twain said: “History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes”
January 28, 2017 at 21:49
Quite.
January 28, 2017 at 20:02
Hi Mr britsimon
I mean if I got sudan visa in my passport already it will effect to my if I want to get usa visa in future
Thak you
January 28, 2017 at 20:09
It has nothing to do with visas stamped in your passport.
January 28, 2017 at 19:49
Hi Simon,
My interview will take place in Abu Dhabi, UAE after 8 hours from now.
I read that Trupm has issue an order of suspending all kind of refugees visa for the whole middle eastern citizens for four months.
is the DV visa considred as refugee visa ?
January 28, 2017 at 20:00
No it is not a refugee visa. However, an aspect of the executive order does affect certain people (from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen). Are you born in or a national of one of those countries?
January 29, 2017 at 19:24
Hi Simon,
No, I’m not a citizen of any above mentioned countries, and i born & raised somewhere else.
However, my interview went somehow well today.
The consular informed me that my visa is approved, but when I checked the CEAC it shows Administrative Processing !!!!!
What does that mean???
Anyway, I’ll donate & share my interview experience as soon as I get the final result.
Thanks a lot dear.
January 30, 2017 at 02:53
Relax. Approved cases often show APO for a day or two before becoming issued.
January 29, 2017 at 08:01
Any Updates mate ?
January 28, 2017 at 19:17
CNN reports that if you are a national of any of these 7 countries and already holding a Green Card but outside of the US, you have to set an appointment with a US Consular Office in your country prior to traveling back to the US. Otherwise, the 90-days ban is valid for those who have the GC as well.
January 28, 2017 at 19:38
Yes, and we are already seeing people held back from flights.
January 28, 2017 at 20:23
Do you have any link from CNN its says that?
January 28, 2017 at 19:12
thanks alot brit, got a question for the winners of DV2017 when is the cut off date for interview?
January 28, 2017 at 19:37
September 30, 2017
January 28, 2017 at 18:41
Dear Simon
I was born in Syria and my nationality is palestinian and carry a syrian travel document and i have a green card since the end of December 2015 and i enter the United States every five months … I am currently living in Saudi Arabia Is there any risk for me when i will go back to America ?
My money in the American bank if there any risk
January 28, 2017 at 18:46
You may be affected by the ban.
January 28, 2017 at 18:40
This from us embassy sudan
“Urgent Notice: Per U.S. Presidential
Executive Order signed on January 27, 2017, visa issuance to aliens from the countries of Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen has been suspended effective immediately until further notification. If you are a national, or dual national, of one of these countries, please do not schedule a visa appointment or pay any visa fees at this time. If you already have an appointment scheduled, please DO NOT ATTEND your appointment as we will not be able to proceed with your visa interview. Please note that certain travel for official governmental purposes, related to official business at or on behalf of designated international organizations, on behalf of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or by certain officials is not subject to this suspension. Please contact [email protected] to inform them of your appointment time and date and request cancellation. Please continue to monitor this website and Travel.State.Gov for further updates.”
January 28, 2017 at 18:51
Thanks.
January 28, 2017 at 18:39
Hi
If you have a visa to one of the affected countries Is prevented from taking of US visas and if you want to get visas and visit to America Are prevent
January 28, 2017 at 18:51
Make your question more clear please to avoid confusion.
January 28, 2017 at 18:29
https://www.facebook.com/cnn/posts/10155987455496509
it looks like a death match 😀
all we need now is the Korean freak to join in
January 28, 2017 at 18:24
Brit u mean even greencard holders from those countries will be deported
January 28, 2017 at 19:03
There is no suggestion that LPRs currently in the USA will be affected, BUT those people should not travel outside the USA at the moment as they may not be readmitted.
January 28, 2017 at 18:19
I dont know if this is an official page but just want u to be in view
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1414189075292334&substory_index=0&id=142477589130162
January 28, 2017 at 18:11
Hi Brit
I heard some news about limitation visas for Afghanistan and Pakistan did it will effect DV lottery in Af.
January 28, 2017 at 18:09
So that means people can’t go home if you are a green card holder from Iran, and if they do, they can’t go back in?
hmmmm
Don’t worry peeps
there is no doubt in my mind there are much better countries to call home in this world, as much as fun as it is to win this lottery,
healthcare and gun control and a president not named Trump might be even more fun.
Who are we kidding, Americans voted him in, a pretty big part of the US agrees with this.
January 28, 2017 at 18:01
Thanks Simon!
January 28, 2017 at 17:51
I am wondering why Afghanistan is not in this list?
January 28, 2017 at 17:50
Such a shame. US are not like that. I can’t wait to see an impeachment procedure. Just senators have to find the good excuse for that.
This Executive order impacts everyone from these countries.
Even Google is impacted and it is estimated that it will impact 100 Googlers actually abroad that may not be able to get back home 🙁
http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/28/14424104/google-trump-executive-order-entry-visas-google-ordered-recall
January 28, 2017 at 21:34
You dont have option bro do or die, check if there are any airline accept you and travel, its do or die sxb. Be advised egypt airline, qatar, emirates are no longer accept people like you.
January 28, 2017 at 17:45
I’m from Somalia i have my valid visa, i planned to travel to US on 1st Feb, my visa expaires end of Feb, i don’t know what do d? Shoud i travel or just stay her. Totally confused.
January 28, 2017 at 17:39
When would countries not cooperating with the US intelligence community for background checks be added to the list ? After or before 90 days ?
January 28, 2017 at 17:56
I don’t know.
January 28, 2017 at 17:36
Thank you simon. ?
January 28, 2017 at 17:26
I have dv lottery visa I went to travel on 03 February on Friday I think what will happen an also nationally somalia
January 28, 2017 at 17:37
Contact the airline in a day or two. You will probably have to change your travel plans. I’m sorry.
January 28, 2017 at 17:25
I just read a post that One Eraqi guy had received a visa cancellation email today.
January 28, 2017 at 17:12
What if you are not from affected countries but you are a muslm?
January 28, 2017 at 17:37
Then not affected.