The new visa bulletin has just been released, it is the first one for DV2024. It shows the starting numbers for DV2024. Now, don’t get “worked up” about these first numbers. The progression of numbers from month to month should not be compared to earlier years, and doesn’t signify much in terms of where they will end up. I will produce a video to explain that later today.
Also in this VB is the info we have been waiting for about how many selectees there are in each country. They have selected about 143000 people, which is an increase over the last couple of years. Again, I will explain my thoughts about this in a video later today, once I have had a chance to look at the numbers. Clearly they did not “double” the selectees, as some were thinking, which means there are, as I suspected, a lot more holes between the case numbers. So – that is worth understanding if you are wondering about your chances for this year. The high number of selectees will mean some risk for high case numbers, so that is also worth understanding.
We can expect to see the first 2NLs within the next few days, and then 2NLs could continue to be sent until about the end of the month.
Just a note about DV2023, this new VB signals the end of scheduling hopes for DV2023. There have not been any 2NLs sent for over a week, so I think we can safely assume that DV2023 scheduling is finished.
Those that are current, and have forms processed early enough, can normally expect their 2NL in the next 2 to 3 weeks from now. This is supposed to be the same every month. VB from the 8th to the 15th of each month, and 2NLs in the second half of the month. For the last few months there have been 2NLs in daily batches, but we seem to be moving to a more normal procedure where almost all the 2NLs are sent before the end of the month, with just a handful being sent earlier this month. I would normally expect all the interview 2NLs to have all been sent by the end of this month, but we can see recently they are exceeding that to try and get as many interviews in as possible. They can be sent right up until the last day of the month, and even the first few days of the following month during exceptional times.
To those new to looking at VBs, let me explain what the “except” XXX country means – and you can also read this post on how to read the visa bulletin.
Processing is spread out over the full year. You can see the progress of the two previous years in this post about basic questions. However, some countries have a high number of selectees and those selectees are concentrated in the lower case numbers. For various reasons, mainly to do with embassy capacity, KCC slow down certain countries as compared to the region. So, for example – in Africa, any case with a case number shown as under the new number can be interviewed but for cases from a few countries, that number is lower. That isn’t a big problem, it just “slows down” those countries a little more than the rest of the region. Since selectees from those countries all have lower case numbers, this slowing down does not present any risk. It does not (at this point) mean they won’t allow all selectees an interview from those countries.
To understand why some countries get lower case numbers, read this article about the lottery draw process.
October 11, 2023 at 10:28
Hey Simon, my case number is 2024AF00071xxx what do you think are the chances to get an interview?
October 11, 2023 at 16:42
The number itself is not too bad, but your chance may depend on which embassy you are assigned to.
October 12, 2023 at 14:55
Hi Simon, the embassy is in London, UK. What do you think? Thanks so much in advance.
October 12, 2023 at 20:41
So they should be fine.
September 11, 2023 at 02:08
Hey Brit, what do you think the chances are for 2024 OC15xx being called for an interview?
September 11, 2023 at 17:25
Pretty good.
September 10, 2023 at 22:18
Hello Simon.
My case number is 2024SA275X, being selected over more than 22 million was amazing and I’m hoping to get my interview, even though I understand this year is going to be rough. 😔
September 4, 2023 at 05:17
Hello Brit my number is 2024AF488X3 and I sent the DS 260 at the beginning of August. Do I have a chance of getting a 2nd Letter?
September 4, 2023 at 11:43
Yes
September 4, 2023 at 11:50
THANK YOU
August 11, 2023 at 05:57
Hi, my number is Eu385xx. It’s a risky number? That’s you!
August 10, 2023 at 03:37
Hi Simon! Thank you so much for keeping us informed!
I would like to ask you about my number EU27000. Is it at risk?
Thank you!
August 10, 2023 at 14:46
Probably not.
August 12, 2023 at 02:40
Thank you, Brit!!!
Have a lovely day!!!
August 9, 2023 at 17:56
Your help is greatly appreciated, Simon! I felt lucky that I won the lottery this year but with a case number of AS26***, it might be a bit too optimistic to think it would go current on time to finish the AOS process. Either way, I’ll keep my fingers crossed :). Thanks for your help again.
August 9, 2023 at 22:43
Best of luck!
August 9, 2023 at 10:10
Hello! If you had to make a guess, very directional, what do you think the cut numbers could be for each region?
August 9, 2023 at 11:20
I wouldn’t be that bold.
August 9, 2023 at 03:24
Hi BritSimon,
Thank you for your effort on this blog, I am a DV selectee for 2024 with EU64XXX and still hesitating if I should go ahead with DS-260… What would be your bet in my case?
August 9, 2023 at 11:08
I would probably not complete the DS260 – and I would at least wait until January when we see the CEAC data.
August 8, 2023 at 22:51
Hello! I am case 3615 from SA, I think I have a wrong case number, is this correct? greetings and blessings
August 8, 2023 at 22:59
It might be.
August 8, 2023 at 20:41
Hi Brit, thank you very much for compiling all these posts and videos! What is your opinion on the fact that the percentage increase in cases in the EU is not evenly spread across countries, and instead, it appears that 2-3 countries per region are driving the increase (such as Kyrgyzstan or Georgia)? Do you think new exceptions will be implemented specifically for them? It seems that they have 2x or 3x the total number of selectees in the last 2 years.
August 8, 2023 at 23:07
Not impactful.
August 9, 2023 at 09:39
The same thing that you say happened with Cuba, they have perhaps 2x the number of past years.
August 8, 2023 at 18:31
DV2024 EU46XX1 (ugly number with a 1 at the end) Frankfurt. Submitted first week of July.
Thanks for the quick stream and summary of the first VB.
Before the publication of this VB, people around me have asked me how I would evaluate the chance of actually receiving an LPR and told them roughly 3 in 4 and that I might be able to say more once this VB was issued.
Now I am down to 50%. My wife went to bed before your stream and I need to tell her something that is correct expectation management in the morning. Family and friends will also ask. Is 50% a conservative guess or somewhat pessimistic?
Being just about in the first 2/3 of CN, if we become current at all it will be very late, summer 2024. Right?
As we’ve seen this DV2023 the chances of actually interviewing and receiving the LPR are quite a bit slimmer than those of getting current. Is the issue with the 5500 people current without 2NL, scheduled, in AOS or 221g something I shouldn’t worry too much about in EU for 2024 and hence tell myself that if we become current should generally workout or is my CN on the edge and at a higher risk for such last minute nightmares?
I am comparing myself to DV2023 30k, accounting for the 25% increase. If that increase happens to anticipate and mathematically correctly compensate something, and it hence neutralized itself, I would be closer to a 23500.
Sounds reasonable?
August 8, 2023 at 19:06
It’s difficult to be precise at this point because we don’t know the distribution of the holes (i.e. where country draw limits will hit). As you may know the density of cases drops in later number ranges in the three large regions. That drop varies year to year as it is to do with the relative entries per country within the region. It’s impossible to predict the shape of the curve we will see, other than to say it will have more holes in later number ranges.
Essentially though it is a fair bet that your number will not be in as strong as a position as 30K last year. I realized I made a mistake in my data in the video by including holes in the number of cases NOT current in DV2023. The correct number of cases for EU is 1554 (say 3000 people). So – 16903 cases were below 32000 (ignoring the impact of Uzbekistan over 17000).
Now, in DV2024 if your case is 46000 and the highest CN is 69000 you might think you are positionally 46/69 which is 66% numerically. BUT since later density is lower you are probably more like 75% of the way through the cases – so that would put you at about 37620 out of 50161. That is about identical to 2023EU32000. So – your chances are 50/50 in my opinion. Right on the edge. Not high enough to give up, not low enough to feel safe. Your chances will to some extent depend on the performance of AF region, because EU has enjoyed some additional quota from AF region, and your chances are better if the same thing happens again. You probably need that.
August 9, 2023 at 07:33
Hi, many thanks for the informative posts and video. I have got a case number EU54XXX so based on what you are saying it seems my chances are actually very low. (Starting to wish I hadn’t told anyone about the lottery now!)
August 9, 2023 at 11:13
Yes, your chance is probably low. We will know more in January.
August 8, 2023 at 16:49
Hi Simon, thank you so much for beaking it down in your live video on you tube, hv gotten my answer there. Once again thank you.
August 8, 2023 at 15:13
In my country Guinea Conakry I have seen several selectees who are eligible for visa.
August 9, 2023 at 18:16
Who are not eligible for visa
August 8, 2023 at 12:27
Hello Simon, what great news, I am from Cuba, I have case number 272 and I sent my form ds260 since May 9. This means that there is a great chance that at any moment I will receive the email with the date of the appointment for the interview and then I will have time to have a medical check-up. thank you very much for the work you do. I recently discovered your blog and it is the best thing that has happened to me to stay informed regarding the visa lottery. blessings.
August 8, 2023 at 16:56
Yes Adrian, you could easily be one of the first interviews. Let me know if you get your 2NL please!
September 10, 2023 at 22:08
Hola Alejandro. Felicitaciones.
August 8, 2023 at 11:29
Hi Simon, thank you for the update, so this means that their is Chance for case number like 59k right?